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3.0 Mercenary/Commando DPS by Hotwired

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3.0 Mercenary/Commando DPS by Hotwired

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TrooperSteg
04.10.2015 , 06:58 AM | #121
Thanks!

After my post about Greeto's rotation I did notice that I was totally focussed on getting his basic rotation done and not doing the Ammo Conservation fillers. thus not swapping out some CB's for HS.
And I also noticed that I put in the EN on a standard postition in my rotation to use every time it's up.

So I will need to practise with the fillers more and key binding my Recharge Cell / Tech Override so not to waste to much time on those when I want to use them.

Greeto's (Volcan) rotation:
Quote:
Ammo Burning:

CB > IR > SB > FA > CB > MB > AP > CB > MB >

Ammo Conservation:

filler (a) > IR > SB > FA > filler (b) > MB > filler (c) > CB > MB

(a): CB, HS, EN, ER (sub 30%), (AP-- only if a 'c' filler emergency was used)
(b): CB, HS, EN, ER (sub 30%), (AP-- only if a 'c' filler emergency was used)
(c): AP, (HS only in emergencies)
What I have keybound to my mouse buttons G9-G20 in sets of 3
CB > SB > IR
EN > SSC > RPC (so this set of 3 is not always used)
FA > CB > MB
AP > CB > MB

I could use my 3rd mouse button to open up a 2nd batch of those 12 button's (currently set for my companion abilities but not used anyway) and get my less used abilities under there like the EN, SSC, RPC and RC, TO.
Now only to get a better setup with the filler abilities in there aswell and getting the feel for it.

I also will get that ship's dummy and the needed stuff for that ASAP. (Thanks for the additional info on the items needed to get from the repair droid, didn't know that yet!)

Edit: I noticed something about that Adrenal buff. I know it's in the (zorz) opener, but do you use it as often as possible? Or only in the opener or only with each downtime during fights?
Xintojo (Assault Specialist), Leeuwia (Sharpshooter), Xintalion (Defense)
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Gyronamics
04.10.2015 , 07:26 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by TrooperSteg View Post
but do you use it as often as possible? Or only in the opener or only with each downtime during fights?
You use adrenals as the fight demands.

If its not a complex boss then you use it on the pull then on cooldown. Otherwise it might be delayed for specific points of a fight.

A dummy is not a complex fight, you use it as often as possible. HOWEVER if you are playing for hiscore parses on the dummy then you plan your parsing to use your adrenal at the most beneficial point which may not be exactly when it becomes available again.
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Niman, Tomb of Freedon Nadd, The Red Eclipse, Darth Malgus

2011 - The Immortals, The Lumberjacks, Nano, Not Good Enough, Disciples of Babylon, Salt Miners - 2018

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Alassa
04.10.2015 , 03:39 PM | #123
Here's my parse for the gunnery spec. My crit is at 468, my aim is at 3500 range, using all power augs, my acc is 109.08, my bonus damage is 1871.2 with a fourpiece bonus. If you need any other information, lemme know.

Yet I'm not able to get past 3.6. Advice?

My Parse

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Gyronamics
04.10.2015 , 04:37 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Alassa View Post
Here's my parse for the gunnery spec. My crit is at 468, my aim is at 3500 range, using all power augs, my acc is 109.08, my bonus damage is 1871.2 with a fourpiece bonus. If you need any other information, lemme know.

Yet I'm not able to get past 3.6. Advice?

My Parse
Purple adrenals, purple stims, improved gear, accuracy needs to be 100/110, you're missing 1% overall by being short there.

Hopefully you already have all 4 class buffs.

When you compare to high parses you need to understand what they are using on top of high parses being freak parses.
Hotwired

Niman, Tomb of Freedon Nadd, The Red Eclipse, Darth Malgus

2011 - The Immortals, The Lumberjacks, Nano, Not Good Enough, Disciples of Babylon, Salt Miners - 2018

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Alassa
04.10.2015 , 06:24 PM | #125
My gear is all 192 with only a few mods unomotimzed. Yes, I do have all four class buffs. Being down 1% acc, is it messing up my overall dps that much? I normally don't do adrenals on a dummy, though I might try a stim at least.

As for comparing my parse to the others, yeah, I'm aware those are 'freak' parses. So is what I'm getting pretty good or could I reach higher?

I know there is not 'set' rotation for gunnery, but is there some things I should trigger before using my other attacks? For instance, I try to use Demolition Round before using Boltstrom, should I be doing that or no? Should my crit be increased?

any advice is welcome. ^_^

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Gyronamics
04.10.2015 , 06:54 PM | #126
You cannot compromise on accuracy. Higher level gear helps get that full accuracy but whatever level if you want to do your best then 100/110 accuracy is required.

Anyway, rotation tips are quite easy.

Spoiler


As well as that...

Get your 6 set bonus for the autocrit on Demo Round.

You only used Recharge Cells once in 1m hitpoints and your APM seems low and you have avoided using Hammer Shots.

I can see how that was possible by looking at your ability timings, you are activating abilities relatively slowly which means you have excess resources by simply not spending them.

As a random example...

16:31:33.180 Grav Round
16:31:35.260 Grav Round

Over two seconds between back to back Grav Rounds is huge. You can use your ability queue by hammering the next ability you want to use while the current ability is still casting/has triggered a GCD and that kind of spacing will drop to 1.5s or less depending on your Alacrity.

This will increase your APM, demand more resources, use of Hammer Shots and will increase your damage.
Hotwired

Niman, Tomb of Freedon Nadd, The Red Eclipse, Darth Malgus

2011 - The Immortals, The Lumberjacks, Nano, Not Good Enough, Disciples of Babylon, Salt Miners - 2018

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Alassa
04.10.2015 , 07:33 PM | #127
Okay, thanks for all the information. I'll see what I can do. I'm working on getting a 6 piece, I'll put in another acc enhancement then. Yeah, I noticed that my APMs are low, I normally can never get above 34. Getting higher APMs, that's just mainly getting used to the spec and timing, right? As for using Hammer Shot, I wanna use that when my resources start getting low, correct? Should I increase my crit, or is 468 crit rating a good number?

Sorry for all these questions, I'm new to Commando dps and I haven't seriously dpsed in like a year, so I'm a bit rusty.

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Gyronamics
04.10.2015 , 08:50 PM | #128
Crit/Power balance is irrelevant, some of my best parses were with well over 1000 crit which was widely believed to be excessive. I recommend a couple of hundred or higher crit.

Higher APM is down to queuing abilites up before the last one is completed (do not do this after Full Auto/Boltstorm because it will cancel the channel).

Hammer Shot costs nothing and you use it as a filler do damage while waiting for more resources to regen so you can use something else.

A combination of increasing your APM, keeping up your Boltstorm procs and really pushing your resources will increase your damage.
Hotwired

Niman, Tomb of Freedon Nadd, The Red Eclipse, Darth Malgus

2011 - The Immortals, The Lumberjacks, Nano, Not Good Enough, Disciples of Babylon, Salt Miners - 2018

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KDTMaster
04.14.2015 , 02:07 PM | #129
Heyha guys,

since the last patch i got an little DPS problem with my assault specialist. With the loss of the 2% alacrity and the crit-dmg bonus from assault trooper my DPS dropped from 4,5k to 4,3k. The biggest problem is the DPS-energy management while we are raiding... too much hammer shots for energy safing drops my dps a little bit too much. Any idea´s? maybe more alacrity augments?

thx

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Goatwhore
04.14.2015 , 02:18 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by KDTMaster View Post
Heyha guys,

since the last patch i got an little DPS problem with my assault specialist. With the loss of the 2% alacrity and the crit-dmg bonus from assault trooper my DPS dropped from 4,5k to 4,3k. The biggest problem is the DPS-energy management while we are raiding... too much hammer shots for energy safing drops my dps a little bit too much. Any idea´s? maybe more alacrity augments?

thx
Pay attention to energy levels and occasionally replace an assault plastique w/ auto attack.