AussieAlan Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Just curious as to how it went for people, in a simple poll. Cleared in this term means ALL the fights. http://www.strawpoll.me/10474836 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrgames Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 What is this poll suppose to show? Only small percentage of the community visit the forums and even smaller percentage will even vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikinai Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I didn't do it at all, smuggler be smugglin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rklontz Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Did it once and i see no need to do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTurin Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Did it in 190 unaugmented gear, but I see that's not an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caraniente Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Interesting. Perhaps a more entertaining question might be what ballpark everyone's repair bills were in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTurin Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Interesting. Perhaps a more entertaining question might be what ballpark everyone's repair bills were in Died once, but since my gear was so terrible, it was like 900 credits or something to repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephxp Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Ya ive used a full set of 204 pvp gear for dps where that character was a tank, but i had 2 sets of pvp gear 1 tank set the other dps. Overall the gear helps but the higher gear helps the most when your trying to get the sprint champion achivment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelballz Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) I did it in my 208 PVP gear with the set bonus. I struggled a little bit the first time but learned the mechanics fairly quickly. Overall I gotta say I thought it's a good intro into OPS for new players. EDIT: I did it with my Marksmanship Sniper which is one of the hardest to do it with in my opinion. Edited June 13, 2016 by squirrelballz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruare Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Did it in a bunch of my characters, most in 208's, my two mains in 220/224 mixes. I liked it just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Not even sure how to answer this. Some characters I need the gear to overcome the mechanics in fight 6 with no taunt on ranged characters. Other characters gear doesn't come into play much as the class is well suited to the challenge. Also 50 influence companion is more important than gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Did it once solo, did it once in a group. I've beaten it both ways...so I'm now done with that piece of wasted content. There are no rewards I want from it, it's worse than Ops for gearing up toons. It was a waste of development time imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Cleared it faster than the Eternal Champion. No healer companion ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAI Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I never could beat it solo even with 208+ gear. I get get to round 5 and normally stop because it gets too annoying after that. With a group it was easy and the easiest to complete it. I have never tried it on a healer. I did not enjoy it that much solo because of my poor eyesight. I also find the announcer annoying when you have to try the round over again. I would rather the announcer say nothing at all. I am not sure what the best class and type are best to beat the championship solo. I wish the weekly could be done in a group and maybe I might try it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolodome Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I don't remember what my gear was at the time. Probably some 208, some not. I did it on a stealth-class smuggler for the alert and beat 4 in a row, I think, before I just lost interest. The companion management when doing it solo (or lack thereof, depending on how you look at companions) makes it kind of tedious for me. I get really frustrated when doing challenging stuff solo, cause on the one hand, my companion is a free pocket healer, but on the other hand, the AI is super mega dumb sometimes and it drives me up the wall just how dumb it can be. It's like... outsmart the enemy and the AI of your own companion. I might try it again sometime on a marauder or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuaRya Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I did it on my best geared 224 merc with a level 40 melee companion. Then read that there was a cybernetic rancor and did it with a 220 sniper, struggled to the point of paying 10 million to get Lana up to 50 (best companion imo) and got got through it. The sorc did it with relative ease in 220's with a decent companion. Heard that marauders cut through it like butter but haven't tried yet. The Sorc won the cybernetic rancor btw. It was as euphoric as winning the casino rancor back in summer of 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exly Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Did it once solo, did it once in a group. I've beaten it both ways...so I'm now done with that piece of wasted content. There are no rewards I want from it, it's worse than Ops for gearing up toons. It was a waste of development time imo. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Just curious as to how it went for people, in a simple poll. Cleared in this term means ALL the fights. http://www.strawpoll.me/10474836 Class probably means more than gear when it comes to EC as well. My JK breezed through it in subpar gear the first time I did it (JK had Ziost and KOTFE quest reward gear on which is 190-200), yet my Smuggler who is infinitely better geared had to work more to complete it. Edited June 13, 2016 by Mykra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderwar Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Did it once solo, did it once in a group. I've beaten it both ways...so I'm now done with that piece of wasted content. There are no rewards I want from it, it's worse than Ops for gearing up toons. It was a waste of development time imo. I disagree it help people Get prepare for operation that what it purpose is I think it succeeded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Wes- Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) It probably doesn't help that I find pve somewhat tedious anyway, but EC is pretty much impossible for me. Mine is a sage healer in 208 pvp gear. My best companion is influence 19, but I find that you have to use different companions for different fights (range vs. melee), so I end up using a level twelve sometimes, too. I think I managed to get to level five once. I could probably do better (e.g., at least get to level five without dying) if I had any patience at all for it, but I figure all I need is another half-level of influence to get Bowdaar, then I'm done with it anyway. I'll play it for twenty or thirty minutes, bang my head on the desk and ask, "why am I doing this again?," and then queue up for a warzone. At least the fights change in those, even if the scenery doesn't. LOL Surely the devs didn't intend for this to be content that makes players want to throw the damned game out a window. I have done plenty of operations, and I haven't found many boss mechanics as annoying as most of the mechanics on these. That's probably just because I'm not the only one dealing with those mechanics in an op, but still. Is something like 208 pve gear better for this sort of thing than the same-rated pvp gear? I have a hard time believing that anyone could finish this in 190 gear (unless having a 50 companion is really that OP), but timing skill and being able to be as repetitive as the content obviously counts for something. Edited June 13, 2016 by -Wes- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTurin Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Is something like 208 pve gear better for this sort of thing than the same-rated pvp gear? I have a hard time believing that anyone could finish this in 190 gear (unless having a 50 companion is really that OP), but timing skill and being able to be as repetitive as the content obviously counts for something. - killed in 190 gear (did die once though ) - taken 30 seconds later showing my companion is level 11 (as I knew people would not believe me if I said it , and forgot to do it in the original video. But as you can see, it's the same character, and it is T7 both times) And for the record, I consider my sentinel to be my worst class (this was the 2nd time I cleared it in 190 gear, someone in my guild didn't believe me when I said I did it the first time). 208 pvp gear is better than 208 pve gear as you'll have the set bonus, and the gear will be optimized as opposed to super endurance heavy. But anyway, gear and companion level don't matter, and micromanaging your companion also doesn't matter (I usually just ignore the companion aside from 3 or 4 times in the entire EC to move him out of stupid). If you find yourself struggling about the EC, explain where the problem is, because it is probably a mechanic you are missing and someone on here can explain what the problem is. I actually have found the EC to be fantastic at training people for Ops, as it teaches most of the basic things you need to do to succeed in ops, but probably the biggest one is that if you fail, it is worth it to figure out why instead of bashing your head against your computer hoping for the best the next time you try. I've had people who literally tried the EC 15 times and kept dying, and then a 30 second conversation with me explaining where they were messing up, and voila, they 1 shot it the next time. So treat it like an operation, and find out what mechanics you are failing to, and you'll be able to kill it, but I promise you, it's not gear or Companion level causing you to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieAlan Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Interesting to see what level gear people were using. I did it with my main a con op, got to the one with the Zakuul knight, died several times and gave up, she was in mostly 208 with a couple of 216 220 non set bonus. Then did it with dirty fighter gun got to Lanos died a few times and gave up, he is in 208s. Can't see myself doing it any more, I would have done it for the 216 gear, sure its not great but better than my crafted 208, but if you drop out, you have to go right back to the first fight, and no respawn on med packs, puts me off. Although I also fall into the the lazy group, if you can't beat it give up and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabenschwinge Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) I think that the gear is overrated and the influence rank on the companion underrated. As an example: If you have, say, a level 10 companion there is no way you can leave that companion alone with a mob in fight number 6, for example. You will have to attack the same mob as does your companion and will probably be busy with holding aggro and kiting throughout most of the fight. The weakest character with whom I did it had an average gear rating over all 14 slots of roughly 210 - however, they still had their share of 216s and maybe even a 220, it was primarily the 194 relics dragging the average down. Due to the labels of the tags I suppose that counts as 208+, rather than 216+. My rule of thumb was to achieve an average of 212 gear rating and have a level 20 companion before I try gating a character through for Eternal Legend. I've seen many posts here in the forums where I was about to call the poster a liar when they described their gear until they got to "level 30 companion". So if someone says they cleared it in 208s without augments and a level 15 companion I am inclined to disbelief them, but with a relatively high companion it's entirely possible. Particularly players who did it with very well equipped characters often underestimate the difficulty, because they don't realize that several fights get more and more difficult the longer they take and they don't realize that they haven't even seen the mechanics that make the fight difficult, because the boss didn't get there. More and more adds spawn, the time of the cycles become shorter, floor effects become more nasty. Edited June 14, 2016 by Rabenschwinge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lularapio Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I have done it only once, on my jugg dps, with a rank 50 companion. Learned the fights on the run. Once you get the mechanics worked out, it is fairly simple but I can see it being hard for certain classes and companion combos/influence rank if they are not matched properly. I will at some point try and farm for the mount (I suppose you can run it more than once per week on each character?) but aside from that, the rewards are very lackluster imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 To add my two cents.... I have to say i liked the idea, was a nice spending of my time in game, nice spending of 1 hours, for which we waited 6 months. Anyway I am an achievment hunter, so i do the content to get achievments and then dont go back to it pretty much (there are exceptions like operations etc) I went through EC for the first time with my 224/220 mando, also did the sprint challange. Then i did it with the other classes, since there is an achievment for that. The funny thing was that i dont have all the 8 classes equiped for dps so at least it possed as a challange. My Assassin and Shadow have tank gear, so i went in with only com 216 gear, my sentinel was fine with 220 gear which is sent over to my Mara also. Merc got gear from Mando so no issues. The problem was my sniper and gunslinger, which had 192 gear and the slinger was a fresh 60 with 188 starter gear, that took a few wipes, but i managed ofc. That was my adventure with EC, its now over and im ready to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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