HoloTweed Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I was surprised to find all of my mats exactly where I left them before 6.0. I was under the impression that they would be automatically moved from all the places I have them into the new vault. But no. You have to do it MANUALLY. You have to pull the mats from whatever bank they're stored into a character's inventory one by one. THEN you can have them swept into the Mats Vault. But wait - IT GETS WORSE. Yes, mats are listed under crafting type... but you have no option how to display them. Instead of the natural way, by Level and Rarity, they are instead... displayed ALPHABETICALLY. So if you want to know how many you have of the Level 8 blue mat, you better remember what it's called. Why was there not AT LEAST the option to change how mats are displayed? (If there is, it's certainly nowhere obvious.) Outside of getting these things out of the various storage areas (which will take at least an hour over 40 alts), this doesn't really seem like an improvement at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonskye Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 But you can still see how many you have, or need, by simply opening a crafting window that uses that item... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionHalcyon Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 So wait. You're outrage is that they didn't do all the work for you? Smallest violin playing over here for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xordevoreaux Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) I was surprised to find all of my mats exactly where I left them before 6.0. I was under the impression that they would be automatically moved from all the places I have them into the new vault. But no. You have to do it MANUALLY. You have to pull the mats from whatever bank they're stored into a character's inventory one by one. THEN you can have them swept into the Mats Vault. But wait - IT GETS WORSE. Yes, mats are listed under crafting type... but you have no option how to display them. Instead of the natural way, by Level and Rarity, they are instead... displayed ALPHABETICALLY. So if you want to know how many you have of the Level 8 blue mat, you better remember what it's called. Why was there not AT LEAST the option to change how mats are displayed? (If there is, it's certainly nowhere obvious.) Outside of getting these things out of the various storage areas (which will take at least an hour over 40 alts), this doesn't really seem like an improvement at all. This overhaul was overdue and done well. I love the way it's implemented. Much much closer to how Everquest 2 does their harvest boxes. New items you get will go directly in the vault rather than personal inventory. Edited October 22, 2019 by xordevoreaux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoloTweed Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) This overhaul was overdue and done well. I love the way it's implemented. Much much closer to how Everquest 2 does their harvest boxes. New items you get will go directly in the vault rather than personal inventory. But it's NOT done well. Otherwise we would be able to select how our mats are displayed. It was half-done. Edited October 22, 2019 by HoloTweed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlorAlak Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) I agree it is half-assed. I just harvested a node and got no announcement in my chat display. I have no idea if I even got anything. Edit: I opened the materials inventory when I harvested, and the materials were placed in there, but some feedback in chat would be nice lol. There is also a move all crafting materials to material storage button on the top left of inventory screen now. Edited October 22, 2019 by AlorAlak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightblazer Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 But it's NOT done well. Otherwise we would be able to select how our mats are displayed. It was half-done. It was done well. Just not done to how you would have done it. Some will agree, some won't. Simple as personal preference nothing more. Submit a suggestion in the suggestion box and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoloTweed Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 It was done well. Just not done to how you would have done it. Some will agree, some won't. Simple as personal preference nothing more. Submit a suggestion in the suggestion box and move on. Except it was NOT done well. It wasn't thought through. It's half-baked. There isn't even personal preference involved... the clunky way that mats are put in the tab and the complete lack of display options makes the new Mats Tab underwhelming and badly implemented. Glad you are satisfied with a "Less Than" result. So YOU can move on, but those not satisfied with the result will make that point known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionHalcyon Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Except it was NOT done well. It wasn't thought through. It's half-baked. There isn't even personal preference involved... the clunky way that mats are put in the tab and the complete lack of display options makes the new Mats Tab underwhelming and badly implemented. Glad you are satisfied with a "Less Than" result. So YOU can move on, but those not satisfied with the result will make that point known. It was done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediQuaker Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) But no. You have to do it MANUALLY. You have to pull the mats from whatever bank they're stored into a character's inventory one by one. THEN you can have them swept into the Mats Vault. This is incorrect. You can move stacks of mats directly from your Inventory, or from your Cargo Bay, or from Legacy Storage, simply by right clicking on the stacks, with the mat tab open** - I've done all 3. They go directly into the mat storage without needing to go through your inventory. Yes, mats are listed under crafting type... but you have no option how to display them. Instead of the natural way, by Level and Rarity, they are instead... displayed ALPHABETICALLY. So if you want to know how many you have of the Level 8 blue mat, you better remember what it's called. While somewhat correct, it's not really a big deal. When you go to craft something, the crafting window will, just as before, show you what mats you need and how many you have to craft with. ** Edit - A minor edit - you do have to have the Materials tab "open" to directly put stuff in there by right-clicking. Open the mat tab by clicking on the "diamond" at the left of your Inventory pane. EDIT #2 - You also have to have "Enable Movable Secondary Window" checked in Interface Editor, to be able to have the Mats tab open while your inventory and Cargo Bay or Legacy Storage is open. Of course, everyone should have that checked on already. Edit #3 - I just noticed there's a "move all mats" button at the top left of the Inventory window, but I've already moved them all, so I haven't tried it yet. Edited October 22, 2019 by JediQuaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoloTweed Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) It was done well. LOL. "I know you are, but what am I?" It clearly wasn't well done, it was half done. Isn't it a little early for blind White Knighting? Edited October 22, 2019 by HoloTweed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casirabit Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Lol, that is not a big deal compared to the prices of getting the new schematics and upgrading your crafting so you get to 700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionHalcyon Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 LOL. "I know you are, but what am I?" It clearly wasn't well done, it was half done. Isn't it a little early for blind White Knighting? Not too early to poke fun at the person who wanted the devs to move all their stuff for them. You want them to do your laundry and walk your dog too? It was done well. It's iteration 1.0. I'm sure as time goes on, they can improve on it and make it better. But as a starting point, a legacy crafting tab that doesn't take up slots in my cargo hold is a thing of beauty, and I have about 4 1/2 tabs I'll be able to clear out once I get home to play. And I know what its like because I tested on PTS. It was done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoloTweed Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Not too early to poke fun at the person who wanted the devs to move all their stuff for them. You want them to do your laundry and walk your dog too? It was done well. It's iteration 1.0. I'm sure as time goes on, they can improve on it and make it better. But as a starting point, a legacy crafting tab that doesn't take up slots in my cargo hold is a thing of beauty, and I have about 4 1/2 tabs I'll be able to clear out once I get home to play. And I know what its like because I tested on PTS. It was done well. You being snarky and repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. In fact, it makes your stance even weaker. But hey, keep acting the Hutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordLongus Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I think it’s great. A bunch of complaining about nothing, me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionHalcyon Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I think it’s great. A bunch of complaining about nothing, me thinks. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionHalcyon Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 You being snarky and repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. In fact, it makes your stance even weaker. But hey, keep acting the Hutt. Ok. It was done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenaught Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I too would like different options on how the materials are sorted in their categories. Also I would like the tabs I have closed down to not spring open when I put materials in one of the other tabs. Minor concerns most likely but improvements I would like to see in the future. That said my groaning Legacy bank is feeling much better now that all those resources are located elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunderam Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Honestly, I was half way expecting it to all be moved over automatically, at least the stuff in legacy storage. But oh well – it took all of 5 minutes to transfer everything over. As for how they are displayed – I suppose sorting options would be nice, but really, I never look to see how many I have of a mat until I go to craft something, and then the crafting menu will show me how many I have/how many I need. So, /shrug. Now I just need to figure out what to do with my suddenly expansive storage space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemmar Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Oh no! The poor guy is too lazy too deposit his mats himself. The humanity! How are we ever gonna get over this! Maybe you would prefer to go to the back to the old system if this one is so bad? Honestly, this is a petty complain. Get over it. Edited October 22, 2019 by Nemmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerileth Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 To the folks that want more storage, it was going to be awesome almost no matter what Bioware did as long as they gave them a separate area to place the materials. For me, it's ok. It's good for more storage. It needs sorting options. I don't want to have to scroll down a huge list to find the materials I have too much of and should sell off, or too few without looking at the the crafting tab. It will take some getting used to. Maybe in the future they could offer sorting options. Not the best implementation, not the worst. Again, for those that simply want more storage, it was great before they even created it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyRoyalport Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) I'm going to be a nay sayer here. It wasn't done well at all. It's contrived and confusing, especially for someone like me who has OCD. My brain can't see any usable organization to it. It's as though they just put a box out for stuff to be dumped into any old way. I had anticipated to see it like this: 1) It would be a storage item set up exactly like a Cargo Hold or Legacy Storage, with tabs at the bottom for each crafting discipline clearly labeled: Artifice, Armstech, Armormech, etc. 2) As you gathered for any of the disciplines the mats would automatically be sent to the proper tab upon accepting the reward. 3) The tabs would be user friendly to allow you to set up the mats inside of it in an order that works for YOU. 4) Items received from Companion missions for Underworld, Investigation, Slicing, Diplomacy, etc, would automatically go into the tab for the discipline it was set up for. Since a few of the crafting disciplines use some of the same items, you could arrange which tab you want it to go to. Again it would be user friendly to allow for self customization. 5) The storage facility would be the same size as a fully unlocked Cargo or Legacy hold with six tabs, 80 slots per tab. THIS is what I expected, what I had envisioned, not an empty junk box. I do not intend to use it. I'll just purchase an additional tab for my Cargo and Legacy Holds and keep my brain happy with my current organization. Sorry people, but I had expected so much better than what we got. Edited October 22, 2019 by LadyRoyalport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phalczen Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I would like a “collapse all”/“expand all” toggle button to close all the category trees. I think just having the interface is a big step. I had the mat window open, and it stored everything as I right clicked on each stack in cargo and legacy, it was a little bit of work but not terrible. I wouldn’t mind sorting options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSpuds Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 But wait - IT GETS WORSE. Yes, mats are listed under crafting type... but you have no option how to display them. Instead of the natural way, by Level and Rarity, they are instead... displayed ALPHABETICALLY. So if you want to know how many you have of the Level 8 blue mat, you better remember what it's called. Yeah, its as awful and out-dated as the baseline ESO Inventory Tab. There's no excuse for the laziness, lack of effort, and cheapness that went into this. I'll be leaving ALL my mats right where they are, because at least that is functional. All The Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeeyyMagzz Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Except it was NOT done well. It wasn't thought through. It's half-baked. There isn't even personal preference involved... the clunky way that mats are put in the tab and the complete lack of display options makes the new Mats Tab underwhelming and badly implemented. Glad you are satisfied with a "Less Than" result. So YOU can move on, but those not satisfied with the result will make that point known. I like the new mats window, it doesn't feel clunky at all to me. That's literally a personal preference. Did you test the expansion on the PTS? If yes, then why didn't you comment on this during play testing? If no, then why didn't you test? They implemented TONS of feedback from PTS testing, they really do listen to the players. It's hard to empathize with someone when that person is telling the people that disagree with them that their opinion is irrelevant. You didn't even do it to just one person, but three separate people. Edited October 22, 2019 by CommunityDroidEU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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