Neeseek Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 fantastic, I can finally enjoy flashpoints without some kid linking his meter every 3 mins to brag. what a blast, thanks for not including a combat log bioware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkat Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Its gonna be fun to guess who's AFK watching their favorite T.V. Program while trying to down heroics raids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxeroEnna Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I want a damage meter. It has nothing to do with linking it so that everyone knows i'm the best, and everything to do with knowing who which of our 4 raid healers isn't healing, so we can teach him. Nightmare mode raiding will be rough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyJeff Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Just today I was wishing for a damage meter and a target dummy so much so I could try out different rotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamsinger Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I want a dmg meter purely for my own information, if it doesn't have the ability to link that is fine by me. Just want to know my output for given spec/rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caeltross Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Nope. It has everything to do with guild control freaks kicking people for not being up to snuff instead of teaching them. Name one guild that actually taught people instead of just g-kicking them and removing them from the raid. What's that? No response? It's ok. I want a damage meter. It has nothing to do with linking it so that everyone knows i'm the best, and everything to do with knowing who which of our 4 raid healers isn't healing, so we can teach him. Nightmare mode raiding will be rough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryathal Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) I want a dmg meter purely for my own information, if it doesn't have the ability to link that is fine by me. Just want to know my output for given spec/rotation. i like your sig's implications Edited December 21, 2011 by ryathal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadin Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 This is a difficult subject. The above posts that give reasons supporting a DPS meter are right on. However, the negative are there, too: People using them to brag People chasing getting a higher DPS so that they just stand there and try to max it out and forego doing other things like moving away from damage, killing things in a more strategic order, crowd control, or throwing out any non-damage abilities that might help the group People getting kicked from a group because their DPS numbers are below whatever the group leader deems acceptable (in some cases this can be fair, but in others not so much - this varies on a case by case basis, admittedly) Anyway, I think there are very strong arguments on both sides of this one. For me, I prefer not having a DPS meter. However the arguments in favor of having it are good enough that I really can't argue strongly about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dierepublic Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I love having no meters so now I can play the way i want to play and just use the spells I want too even if they are not the ones I should be using. Now no one can complain about how I play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunwindIon Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 On one hand I like it, on the other it would be really nice to see my damage so I can optimize my ability usage, maybe just a meter that shows only your own damage with no way to post it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnGround Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 yay, i can do be in 3rd place, just above the healer, and nobody will know!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JogelBolla Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) how about damage meters that only showed your damage/healing? thats really the only reason i want it. for myself. Edited December 21, 2011 by JogelBolla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeseek Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 I don't mind if they showed Overall damage. but DPS sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFrog Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 They will come in time...I like DPS meters :| Shows me how much I am improving, what I need to change...ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jediknightReece Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I want a damage meter. It has nothing to do with linking it so that everyone knows i'm the best, and everything to do with knowing who which of our 4 raid healers isn't healing, so we can teach him. Nightmare mode raiding will be rough But believe it or not thats what would happen. People would link it every 10 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JogelBolla Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) But believe it or not thats what would happen. People would link it every 10 min. You know how I feel about those people linking meters every 10 min? I pity them. I feel genuine pity for them. They are in such need of validation that they shamelessly try to flaunt their so called skill at the game. Edited December 21, 2011 by JogelBolla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikai Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'd rather see an activity "meter" of sorts, there's no real need to see damage but it would be helpful to see a meter sliding between "Inactive" and "Active" status to actually monitor slackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanlec Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 How can you optimize your damage output if you don't even know what it is. Damage meters are there to show slackers and baddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelAnne Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 fantastic, I can finally enjoy flashpoints without some kid linking his meter every 3 mins to brag. what a blast, thanks for not including a combat log bioware! True its great fun. I am not a dps but I know that many dps do silly mistakes because they feel pushed to top dps meters, as they are afraid to be kicked if they dont. For me as tank this is kinda annoying, so I do support it that we dont have such tools in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadin Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'll say this. I kind of agree with the pro-DPS meter side a little bit. However, my threshold for getting rid people is different than for some. Let's say the expected baseline DPS is 1000. I wouldn't experience rage and indignation at someone doing 800 and instantly kick them out of the group. Where it's useful to me is to find the person doing 300 and either (if possible) see if I can help them improve or politely ask them to leave. What makes me really irritated is the guy spamming his best AoE damage ability to get the best numbers in lieu of actually fighting with the best interests of the group at heart. Bad attitudes and elitism about DPS numbers are bad, but I can admit people who aren't pulling their own weight and are holding the group back are hard to take, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jediknightReece Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'd rather see an activity "meter" of sorts, there's no real need to see damage but it would be helpful to see a meter sliding between "Inactive" and "Active" status to actually monitor slackers. Oh nice this is a good one. It will monitor there classes "expected" activity and giving maybe a % on what they are doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerolyfe Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 fantastic, I can finally enjoy flashpoints without some kid linking his meter every 3 mins to brag. what a blast, thanks for not including a combat log bioware! Someone has consistently low DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrian Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 How can you optimize your damage output if you don't even know what it is. Damage meters are there to show slackers and baddies. Which is it? Optimize damage, or show slackers and baddies? See? This is what I don't like about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITSAmeee Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 what if a combat log and the consequential combat log parser / damage meter will show that class CLASSNAME has +XX% dmg output of all the others? What if turns out a spec is ridiculously dominant over the others?...What if it turns out the game is not balanced (well enough)? This is a conspiracy. No combat log = we can't see how balanced (or not) is the game. No DMG meters doesn't only mean You (random reader) can slack for whichever reason in Flash Points and Operations, it also means that the Developers themselves can slack and work lets say on more "cosmetic" changes ingame that may appeal the players more, than a well balanced class system. They are watching. I'm not delusional. My mom got me checked (<3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeseek Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 Someone has consistently low DPS. ^ why I don't like em too. Rude, e peen bragging people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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