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Uh Oh, the world as we know it may come to an end

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Uh Oh, the world as we know it may come to an end

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asbalana
10.05.2015 , 03:20 PM | #341
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak View Post
There is difference between adaptive gear and moddable gear. adaptive gear only means that any class can wear it and it will adapt to be the heaviest armor that advanced class can wear.
Right. Thanks for the correction. It has been so long that I have even looked at fixed stat gear (except for the stuff for companions that drops in boxes on Yavin 4) that I just blended the two concepts in my mind.

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Lecaja
10.07.2015 , 06:58 PM | #342
Well that's it I guess. The world came to an end for crafting so I unsubbed, deleted the game and and this will be my last post. Everyone been so generous with their time and knowlege so I wanted to thank all of you especially the crafters online. The smart play would be to keep all your secrets to yourself and not give anything to the competition but everyone so generous here with information it was really somtething special. Again thank all of you.

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WingsofCrystal
10.07.2015 , 07:14 PM | #343
Quote: Originally Posted by Lecaja View Post
Well that's it I guess. The world came to an end for crafting so I unsubbed, deleted the game and and this will be my last post. Everyone been so generous with their time and knowlege so I wanted to thank all of you especially the crafters online. The smart play would be to keep all your secrets to yourself and not give anything to the competition but everyone so generous here with information it was really somtething special. Again thank all of you.
Asbalana and Wings wish you the best.

At this point you may want to go a month or two more, just to see the new content; nine chapters of story. In any case, keep visiting the forums. It may be the case that those of us who are seriously offput by what we are reading are wrong and the expansion is good. To us it is worth giving it a try, lol at least it will be some new stuff to see.

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DarthOvertone
10.08.2015 , 04:10 PM | #344
Quote: Originally Posted by Lecaja View Post
Everyone been so generous with their time and knowlege so I wanted to thank all of you especially the crafters online. The smart play would be to keep all your secrets to yourself and not give anything to the competition but everyone so generous here with information it was really somtething special.
I'm curious. To each his own, however, why in the world would anyone unsub from this game because of Crafting? I mean...I craft to help my toons out and make credits, but that part of the game was never good or impressive in the least. I'm frankly surprised that people liked Crafting in this game that much that these changes would make them quit the game.
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MeNaCe-NZ
10.08.2015 , 05:32 PM | #345
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthOvertone View Post
I'm curious. To each his own, however, why in the world would anyone unsub from this game because of Crafting? I mean...I craft to help my toons out and make credits, but that part of the game was never good or impressive in the least. I'm frankly surprised that people liked Crafting in this game that much that these changes would make them quit the game.
Each to their own and you would think they would at least give it a go first but *shrug*.

Can I haz your stuff? ( I know you put the poster in the other thread heh :P )

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Draqsko
10.08.2015 , 08:36 PM | #346
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthOvertone View Post
I'm curious. To each his own, however, why in the world would anyone unsub from this game because of Crafting? I mean...I craft to help my toons out and make credits, but that part of the game was never good or impressive in the least. I'm frankly surprised that people liked Crafting in this game that much that these changes would make them quit the game.
Not everyone is a raider, not everyone is a pvper, not everyone is an RPer, not everyone is a GSFer, not everyone is a soloist. Some people play MMOs to craft and that is what they enjoy. With the changes to crafting, he no longer sees a point to playing SWTOR since crafting is his main MMO activity, and if crafting was like that for me, I would feel the same way. To put it in terms you could relate to, imagine if they removed Ops or pvp or whatever you like to do the most. Would you stay if they removed your primary activity in SWTOR?

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DarthOvertone
10.09.2015 , 10:46 AM | #347
Quote: Originally Posted by Draqsko View Post
To put it in terms you could relate to, imagine if they removed Ops or pvp or whatever you like to do the most. Would you stay if they removed your primary activity in SWTOR?
But they didn't remove Crafting. They just changed it. And many of the changes have been long needed and necessary.

At the same time, the Crafting system in this game has always been garbage. Sorry, but I can't believe there are peeps that play this game just to craft when the system is so bad.
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Khevar
10.09.2015 , 12:25 PM | #348
Quote: Originally Posted by Draqsko View Post
Not everyone is a raider, not everyone is a pvper, not everyone is an RPer, not everyone is a GSFer, not everyone is a soloist. Some people play MMOs to craft and that is what they enjoy. With the changes to crafting, he no longer sees a point to playing SWTOR since crafting is his main MMO activity, and if crafting was like that for me, I would feel the same way. To put it in terms you could relate to, imagine if they removed Ops or pvp or whatever you like to do the most. Would you stay if they removed your primary activity in SWTOR?
Far be it for me to say what someone should or shouldn't enjoy about this game, but even as a "big time crafter" (if you'll excuse the hubris), I myself find it a bit hard to get too worked up about anything with regards to the crafting system.

Despite the fact that I have lots of alts that all do gathering / missions / crafting, despite the fact that I can make pretty much anything I need for friends and alts, and despite the fact that I made plenty of credits doing crafting, it is really just a minor part of my gameplay experience.

My entire "crafting empire" only occupies a few minutes a day, kicking off companion missions, switching to alts, listing stuff on the GTN.

Frankly, the activity of crafting isn't interesting enough for me to want to do more than that. I'd rather do other things in game that actually involve, I dunno, interaction with the game world? Other people? Something?

I've weathered every major change that has been thrown at us over the last 3+ years. Some good, some bad. I adjust to it because crafting is juuuuust interesting enough for me to do because I've mastered it and can make things and credits. And no change made to date (and I don't think 4.0 will change this opinion) has been so great that I couldn't just roll with the flow and STILL be able to make things and credits.

And honestly, what else is there about crafting in TOR, other than to make things and credits?

There are other games with deep, involved crafting environments, where the ACTIVITY of crafting itself is more sophisticated.

This one ain't it.

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psandak
10.09.2015 , 01:25 PM | #349
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
Far be it for me to say what someone should or shouldn't enjoy about this game, but even as a "big time crafter" (if you'll excuse the hubris), I myself find it a bit hard to get too worked up about anything with regards to the crafting system.

Despite the fact that I have lots of alts that all do gathering / missions / crafting, despite the fact that I can make pretty much anything I need for friends and alts, and despite the fact that I made plenty of credits doing crafting, it is really just a minor part of my gameplay experience.

My entire "crafting empire" only occupies a few minutes a day, kicking off companion missions, switching to alts, listing stuff on the GTN.

Frankly, the activity of crafting isn't interesting enough for me to want to do more than that. I'd rather do other things in game that actually involve, I dunno, interaction with the game world? Other people? Something?

I've weathered every major change that has been thrown at us over the last 3+ years. Some good, some bad. I adjust to it because crafting is juuuuust interesting enough for me to do because I've mastered it and can make things and credits. And no change made to date (and I don't think 4.0 will change this opinion) has been so great that I couldn't just roll with the flow and STILL be able to make things and credits.

And honestly, what else is there about crafting in TOR, other than to make things and credits?

There are other games with deep, involved crafting environments, where the ACTIVITY of crafting itself is more sophisticated.

This one ain't it.
Well said, Khevar. You and I are of the same mind on all counts.
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Draqsko
10.09.2015 , 02:07 PM | #350
Why do you people feel the need to bash someone who leaves because they don't enjoy the game, or because they don't like the changes that are coming? Are their opinions so threatening to your own that you have to demean them to justify your own beliefs?

Sorry but he is right to feel the way he does and he is free to do it. It's not like he sat here ranting and raving. And people wonder why others say this community sucks, well that's a big reason right there.