Deezlar Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I was dubious as to how this nerf would affect things, but I must say its made the game so much better for pvp!! No more instagibbing and fights actually require skill to win instead of gear that stacks the mother of all stats. First change that has been positive. More to come I hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I was dubious as to how this nerf would affect things, but I must say its made the game so much better for pvp!! No more instagibbing and fights actually require skill to win instead of gear that stacks the mother of all stats. First change that has been positive. More to come I hope! As a healer, I still am hoping this makes healers less tanky and more supporty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thuull Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The change is going to "feel" awesome for some classes, and complete suck for others. It's all about perspective. Better? Yeah...totally depends on where you're standing. Definitely different, it's got that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undiess Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The change is going to "feel" awesome for some classes, and complete suck for others. It's all about perspective. Better? Yeah...totally depends on where you're standing. Definitely different, it's got that. How would you know? You leave warzones early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthtoph Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Translation: I used to suck at PvP but now I can stay alive a bit longer. Sometimes. if my team is facerolling the opponent. Edited February 14, 2012 by darthtoph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thuull Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 How would you know? You leave warzones early... LOL. 5char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yescek Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I really don't know how this is going to work out. I'm slightly dubious of is as a Carnage Marauder, because the attack my entire build is based around lives on high surge. Idk, we'll see how many feathers my Fus Ro Dah ruffles tonight. But considering Bioware's track record so far? I'm not optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsky Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Is carnage the same as watchman on a sent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deezlar Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Translation: I used to suck at PvP but now I can stay alive a bit longer. Sometimes. if my team is facerolling the opponent. Or, I meant what I said, and your translation is a load of old cobblers. I did fine in PVP before. I said that PVP has improved, not that its been a good patch for ME particularly. Healers stay alive longer meaning kills become far more tactical as you cannot rely on a shadow or operative being able to tear down a healer in 4 seconds, and classes that are quite squishy have a chance vs some of the more burst oriented classes. Also its a VERY welcome kick in the plums to all the people that sploited BM early on and spent all their hard "earned" points ripping out surge mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwiz Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 It is better but not perfect, BW shouldn't stop with the nerfs till PvP is nothing more than running in circles with a full health bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth__Carnal Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) How would you know? You leave warzones early... ^ This sh**t caught me off guard and made drop my drink and LOL. Edited February 14, 2012 by Darth__Carnal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahoff Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 ^ This sh**t caught me off guard and made drop my drink and LOL. Total luls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerain Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Is carnage the same as watchman on a sent? no carnage is combat and watchman is annihilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I really don't know how this is going to work out. I'm slightly dubious of is as a Carnage Marauder, because the attack my entire build is based around lives on high surge. Idk, we'll see how many feathers my Fus Ro Dah ruffles tonight. But considering Bioware's track record so far? I'm not optimistic. Both Sentinel/Marauders specs were dependent on surge. Combat damage came mainly from the Blade Storm autocrits (nerfed) and Watchman damage was dependent on burn crit ticks (nerfed). We'll see how bad things are.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creatineted Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The fact I went from 89.8 percent surge to 77.4 surge is horse **** people who had 78 are now like 74% hit me so hard as a BH i still get my 5k crits but it just pisses me off its almost impossible to drop surge when itemization is so piss poor and i'm sure as hell not taking accuaracy/anything enhancements -__- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laoi Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 just stack power now + get power relic + power adrenal = problem solved, u hit almost as hard as before but more consistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuorEarfalas Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The fact I went from 89.8 percent surge to 77.4 surge is horse **** people who had 78 are now like 74% hit me so hard as a BH i still get my 5k crits but it just pisses me off its almost impossible to drop surge when itemization is so piss poor and i'm sure as hell not taking accuaracy/anything enhancements -__- Says the missile spammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltohan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Says the missile spammer I see this in his sig: Gravypants lvl 50 Powertech I'm either too dumb to grasp this or was it a joke ? Didn't know Powertech were tracer missile spammer Reading comprehension 101 is this way : -> Edited February 14, 2012 by Eltohan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehsals Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=300965 Surge nerf wasn't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackadda Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I lost like 10% surge... . As a Pyro/Merc i doubt ill see the 5k dmg medal anymore because thermal det was only *barely* able to crit that high, and that was rare.. so its like 1 medal lost every 10 matches for me...no big deal really. Still seeing 300k medal nearly every match , just did a 520k voidstar....so havnt lost a ton of damage, just a little off the spike damage Edited February 14, 2012 by blackadda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrishowee Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I ripped out all my surge/ crits and replaced them with power/crit/end/shield rating, and noticed little to no drop in my crits, stronger base attacks and a defence boost, which was well needed because im a madness assassin with 615 expertise and was still gettin hit like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 well my marauder is TERRIBLE now, 2 nerfs in a row but on the positive side my healing specced merc is invincible now 2 vs 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahhmyface Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I ripped out all my surge/ crits and replaced them with power/crit/end/shield rating, and noticed little to no drop in my crits, stronger base attacks and a defence boost, which was well needed because im a madness assassin with 615 expertise and was still gettin hit like crazy. ill be getting power mods myself. no point using crit, if your surge sucks now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImURmaster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Translation: I used to suck at PvP but now I can stay alive a bit longer. Sometimes. if my team is facerolling the opponent. Translation: I have no skills and my gear crutch just got lessened. I don't think I beat baddies anymore despite the fact I'm BM r65...I fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhazesx Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Tank/healer stacking is even worse now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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