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notanjelika

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I've noticed some discrepancies in the class stories and also in KOTFE/KOTET:

 

First, if your sith warrior is a male twilek, Vette doesn't seem to acknowledge that, neither does Baras when he sends you to jail to talk to Vette.

Second, if your jedi consular is a twilek, the people from Kalikori village ( twilek village..) don't seem to acknowledge that either, they just call you "jedi" and that's all

Third : in "Gemini deception" after you free Tai Cordan, Zasha Ranken & Malita Tal from their cells, only Tai Cordan remembers the Outlander ( if he's a jedi consular). How can Zasha Ranken not remember the Sith/BH/IA Outlander when you've met before on Kuat Drive? ?

Fourth: if your BH is chiss, the chiss from Hoth ( dude guarding Blizz and Aristocra *forgot his name* don't even see it,would be nice to say " cool, you're one of us" or something.

Fifth : Vailyn's ugly dress and head scarf - she's on a budget or what? Even at her coronation she's wearing the same .. gimme a break, your whole wardrobe is full of 200 copies of the same outfit??

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Yeah, we know. Some of those come from the original intent of which species the classes were meant to be, but in other cases (that you didn't mention), that's not so. Of course that doesn't excuse any of Vaylin's (and Arcann's, for that matter) sartorial minimalism, but...

 

As for Admiral Ranken, well, the thing that doesn't make sense there is that *she* doesn't acknowledge meeting you if you *have* done KDY, while the Alliance Specialist Aygo *does* acknowledge meeting you even if you *haven't* done KDY.

 

Consider the case of the poor Agent whose player chose to create a Rattataki.

 

Rattataki is one of the original Agent species options, except that nobody anywhere in the story EVER notices that you are one.

 

Result: When you go to see Darth J on Dromund Kaas (and in theory you have only one companion, the illustrious Kaliyo Djannis), you are told by his guards that "the Rattatki must wait outside". There's no option to answer, "Which one?" or, "Both of us?" or anything like that.

 

Result: In the conversation where Raina Temple is about to join you on Hoth, she asks you about "the Rattataki" as if you aren't one yourself.

 

Result: At the beginning of Corellia, someone comes to try to take away "the Rattataki", meaning KD herself. They don't take you away.

 

Result: Kaliyo herself, in a companion-story conversation, tells you about her life growing up on Rattatak(1) as if there's no way you'd know. She doesn't comment on your accent or anything else that might give her a reason to think you grew up somewhere else.

 

(1) Sounds like a perfectly horrible place.

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Result: When you go to see Darth J on Dromund Kaas (and in theory you have only one companion, the illustrious Kaliyo Djannis), you are told by his guards that "the Rattatki must wait outside". There's no option to answer, "Which one?" or, "Both of us?" or anything like that..

 

I imagine something like :

 

Darth J: the Rattataki must wait outside

IA: which one? me? her? both?

Darth J: ..oh LOL you are a rattataki..

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One of the funnier ones is playing a Twilek JC and going to the Twiliek colony and not being treated like a Twilek.

 

The funniest one is on Hoth in the imp side planet story arc playing a chiss and being introduced to a chiss; you get the conversation choice to ask what is a chiss LOL.

 

or playing a Cathar Trooper or Smuggler and being told what a Cathar is, on Ord Mantell LOL

 

Cathar I can understand because it was not an original species.

 

All of these little quirky interactions though stem from one cause: they could not anticipate every single possible conflicting quirk and do voice acting for it. They made the decision that in the overwhelming majority of cases the character would NOT be X species and therefore the standard interactions work fine.

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The funniest one is on Hoth in the imp side planet story arc playing a chiss and being introduced to a chiss; you get the conversation choice to ask what is a chiss LOL.

 

or playing a Cathar Trooper or Smuggler and being told what a Cathar is, on Ord Mantell LOL

 

Indeed. Hilarity.

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One of the funnier ones is playing a Twilek JC and going to the Twiliek colony and not being treated like a Twilek.

 

And you get to read the lore in one of the houses, lore telling you.. what's a twilek! :D:D:D

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The funniest one is on Hoth in the imp side planet story arc playing a chiss and being introduced to a chiss; you get the conversation choice to ask what is a chiss LOL.

 

or playing a Cathar Trooper or Smuggler and being told what a Cathar is, on Ord Mantell LOL

 

Cathar I can understand because it was not an original species.

 

All of these little quirky interactions though stem from one cause: they could not anticipate every single possible conflicting quirk and do voice acting for it. They made the decision that in the overwhelming majority of cases the character would NOT be X species and therefore the standard interactions work fine.

Actually, I'd say there are two *similar* / *related* causes:

* Combinations that weren't ever considered at all, like PBS Inquisitor or Chiss anything on the Republic side, but became possible with legacy species unlocks. (This category includes Cathar and Togruta, of course.)

* Combinations that weren't planned-for in the original design, but were added as permitted combinations during the beta process, like Warriors being anything except human / PBS.

 

Both of these produce oddities if you play one of the unexpected combinations, of course.

 

Neither of them explains the weirdness around Rattataki Agents, of course.

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The funniest one is on Hoth in the imp side planet story arc playing a chiss and being introduced to a chiss; you get the conversation choice to ask what is a chiss LOL.

 

or playing a Cathar Trooper or Smuggler and being told what a Cathar is, on Ord Mantell LOL

 

Cathar I can understand because it was not an original species.

 

All of these little quirky interactions though stem from one cause: they could not anticipate every single possible conflicting quirk and do voice acting for it. They made the decision that in the overwhelming majority of cases the character would NOT be X species and therefore the standard interactions work fine.

 

Well, the same thing can be said for the stories as they are for Cathar.

 

They gave us more classes than were originally supposed to be allowed for the class. So they didn't account for them.

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The first time I played through Hoth on a female chiss BH, Aristroca did acknowledge my chiss and even tried to hit on her... I was rather surprised to never see that happen again. That was when the game was new though.. I wonder why they changed it.

 

It seems it may have been my agent, not BH.. faulty memory on my part, lol. she is chiss too.

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I was sort of disappointed with the Copero story part with my Chiss agent. Only finished Kotfe/Kotet to see some Chiss specific conversation.

And as far as I remember my class story from years back, Saganu even adopted my agent. :(

 

The phrases on Odessen barely differed from what my Cathar Inquisitor said and heard. I think only two acknowledgments of being Chiss myself were there, when we decide the fate of that Inrokini woman and the letter after the mission. With the letter being most explicit with something like "you are one of us"

There was the part of foreigners not being welcomed on Chiss worlds, even less force users, but as far I could remember it was exactly the same for both characters, Chiss and non Chiss.

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My Miralukan characters still insist on putting the binocular things in front of their blindfolded eyes while scanning for hidden antennas.

Could be worse. There are a few missions where they tell some NPC or other that they will keep their eyes open...

 

(I think the earliest is from one of the Twi'leks in Kalikori village on Tython.)

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