Xippin Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 again, another clear example that BIOWARE has ZERO clue how to do PVP. How the hell is someone just going to stealth out of the middle of a battle?! Either this effect should not happen in combat, or you need to be able to see them for 1-2 seconds after they stealth. Pretty bad to try to open world pvp when a bunch of players can just stealth out of the battle and run away with no problems. This just kinda ruins world pvp for me. I mean if I am attacking someone in melee, and they insta-stealth, let me see them if they are next to me, or make their skill a 1-2 sec to activate so they cant just disappear while in the middle of a melee fight. Or give them 1/2 stealth for 1-3 seconds. Very bad experience that my 1st open pvp world fight, ended with the dude just stealthing away in mid battle when I was winning. While invis he was able to easily go into his normal stealth and that was that. Very disappointing to say the least. If he was winning I would have died, it is not like players lose anything on death, so why give so much advantage to an already good dps/tanking class. I wouldn't have an issue with giving up my in combat stealth (disappearing act) if you replace it with a the knockback and sprint that SI's have. Currently as a smuggler healer, I have 4 "escape/save me" options (5 but one is broken). Smuggler Survival Abilities (at level 28) 1. 4 second stun; single target; 4 meter range; 45 second cooldown - 4 seconds...am I going to get out of range of anything in 4 seconds...no 2. 8 second AoE Mez: breaks on any dmg; 10 meter range; 1:30 cooldown - breaks on ANY and ALL damage...AoE spammers are the bane of this ability 3. 12 second duration snare (single target); 4 meter range; 12 second cooldown - COOL! I have to get in melee range to use it so they can light saber my face! 4. Disappearing Act (in combat stealth); 3 minute cooldown - 3 Minute cooldown is reasonable considering how easily people can see through stealth. Only DECENT ability we have for survival. *5. Dodge (Broken- doesn't actually work) 3 Seconds of 100% dodge for melee/ranged attacks. I would give ALL of it up for the SI sprint and SI knockback. (Not to mention SI's have spammable snare, stun, whirlwind, root, and bubble all by level 20. How can you really complain about in combat stealth, you couldn't catch an SI if they didn't want you too...look at most huttball matches, they are near impossible to catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xippin Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 That is the only thing i hated and pissed me off . Im sniper and i do only burst dmg with 1 dot ability. Now i cant spec a different tree just so i can have more dot abilities. The dot ability does literally no dmg. Its annoying how they can disappear during cmb so because you don't "want" to use the dot ability because it does so little damage...another class should be nerfed? grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anasa Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 again, another clear example that BIOWARE has ZERO clue how to do PVP. How the hell is someone just going to stealth out of the middle of a battle?! Either this effect should not happen in combat, or you need to be able to see them for 1-2 seconds after they stealth. Pretty bad to try to open world pvp when a bunch of players can just stealth out of the battle and run away with no problems. This just kinda ruins world pvp for me. I mean if I am attacking someone in melee, and they insta-stealth, let me see them if they are next to me, or make their skill a 1-2 sec to activate so they cant just disappear while in the middle of a melee fight. Or give them 1/2 stealth for 1-3 seconds. Very bad experience that my 1st open pvp world fight, ended with the dude just stealthing away in mid battle when I was winning. While invis he was able to easily go into his normal stealth and that was that. Very disappointing to say the least. If he was winning I would have died, it is not like players lose anything on death, so why give so much advantage to an already good dps/tanking class. So you are butthurt because your opponent run away, and this mean that BW has "ZERO CLUE HOW TO DO PVP". Dot them or pop them with AOE after they vanish if your face, but planning ahead or reacting fast has no place if your butthurt mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietyz Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 man you would HATE rikimaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethal_ghost Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 This ability is only amazing vs complete noobs. Anyone even slightly skilled/experienced will put a dot on you or aoe you out. I would not mind if they removed this ability and added one to give a speed boost, much easier to run away with speed boost than stealth. this many other mmo pvp have a class that can do this a dot or aoe quick works well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo_Hyborian Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 lol take away stealth from a stealth class just so you can own them, how pathetic. I dont play a stealth class and have NO problem with it as stealth is core to someone else. its like saying to take way charge from melee or ranged from range...such a stupid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandoPower Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I've used DOT's on people before they used their "vanish" many times and only had it pop a couple noobs. They always cleanse them. I've had more success with AOE's but not everyone has an AOE and many time the terrain prevents this method anyways. I mean really, huttball and alderran means they can likely immediately break LOS after vanish. Voidstar is 50/50 on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caeliux Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 its a bad pvp mechanic, and just leads to lame play. Assassin and shadow have huge advantages in PvP because of this, and no I dont want to have to respect my whole tree just so I can put a dot on a stelthing player. . God forbid you have to PvP actually, man that would suck to use skills.. Lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absit Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I'll give up in-combat stealth for Medium armor, as a melee character I'm butthurt that I have less armor than most ranged characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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