Krionic Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 can i have stealth, or force leap, or some kind of grapple enemy spell. Or how about some more CC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armaso Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Preventing damage is worthless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me_unknown Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Preventing damage is worthless? which damage? dots that are on cd and not more or less immediately reapplied autmoatically are doing so low damage that it wasn't ever worth to cleanse them. actually cleans is a quite worthless ability, only usefull in very few situations. most of the time the gcd you are losing costs could have been spend far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 which damage? dots that are on cd and not more or less immediately reapplied autmoatically are doing so low damage that it wasn't ever worth to cleanse them. actually cleans is a quite worthless ability, only usefull in very few situations. most of the time the gcd you are losing costs could have been spend far better. Cleanse is the only thing between me and the respawn when a marauder targets me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caultonpos Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Quite useful when you are running away with low health and pretty sure you got dotted. Essential for operatives, assassins before going back into stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savionen Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 DoT damage is pretty terrible overall aside from Marauder/Sentinel DoTs. 1500 damage over 18 seconds, for 3 ammo, when I can do an attack for 1400 instantly, for 2 ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuzz Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Can i swap Force Lift then since im not specced into it and imo its not that useful to me? Ill take a spammable self-heal. Thanks! OR, you could realise that EVERY skill you have is situational and has a scale of usefulness depending on how you spec and how you play, in conjunction with what the bad guys do. So sick of whiny little cry-babies. Thats why the game is getting into this state. To satisfy muppets like the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moolah Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 You nullify lethality IA / Dirty Fighting Snipers with that simple ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirium Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 You nullify lethality IA / Dirty Fighting Snipers with that simple ability. Shhh, don't tell them that, let baddies be bads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 DoT damage is pretty terrible overall aside from Marauder/Sentinel DoTs. 1500 damage over 18 seconds, for 3 ammo, when I can do an attack for 1400 instantly, for 2 ammo. A DoT on you from a BH or Trooper with a fire spec isn't there just for the damage. It buffs other attacks which they THEN unload on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krionic Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Can i swap Force Lift then since im not specced into it and imo its not that useful to me? Ill take a spammable self-heal. Thanks! OR, you could realise that EVERY skill you have is situational and has a scale of usefulness depending on how you spec and how you play, in conjunction with what the bad guys do. So sick of whiny little cry-babies. Thats why the game is getting into this state. To satisfy muppets like the OP. Oh you mean all the whiney cry-babies like you that pouted that they didn't know you could cleanse a dot to cap an objective? Those cry-babies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krionic Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 A DoT on you from a BH or Trooper with a fire spec isn't there just for the damage. It buffs other attacks which they THEN unload on you. cool, you just cleansed it. and since you are VISIBLY no longer on fire... guess what.. they reapply and your cleanse is on cool down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuzz Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Lol, Id love you you to link where I posted that. Because I havent ever said anything of the sort. I think you need to attribute that to whoever posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirium Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 cool, you just cleansed it. and since you are VISIBLY no longer on fire... guess what.. they reapply and your cleanse is on cool down. Hm, yes, their guaranteed DoT which is 25% of their resources vs. my cleanse which is almost free... Yes, please do reapply your DoT. Even for PTs/Vanguards, they have to get almost into melee range to reapply their DoT and it still is far more expensive than cleanse. You know what's great at mitigating damage? Running someone else's resources out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuzz Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 can i have stealth, or force leap, or some kind of grapple enemy spell. Or how about some more CC.... Reroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savionen Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 A DoT on you from a BH or Trooper with a fire spec isn't there just for the damage. It buffs other attacks which they THEN unload on you. I am aware of that. Gut is the same thing, it's only there so that you can use Railshot. I'm not talking about just that though, all DoTs are weak in this game for the resource cost. Force Breach for example only does like 15% more damage than Shadow Breach, even though it does it over 18 seconds instead of instantly (and does kinetic damage instead of internal I believe, so actually ends up being less.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me_unknown Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Cleanse is the only thing between me and the respawn when a marauder targets me. actually you are right. against marauders with this dot specc (watchman in case of sentinels) it is the only usefull damage prevention. i forgot that due to warzones where i rarly have a one on one situation against a marauder to have this worth doing it. edit: but it seems my post gets a bit misunderstood. i don't share the opinion of the op. cleanse is still not worthless. though it is not that great damage preventing ability many think it to be (like it was in wow maybe). still a nice one. Edited February 29, 2012 by me_unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirium Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I am aware of that. Gut is the same thing, it's only there so that you can use Railshot. I'm not talking about just that though, all DoTs are weak in this game for the resource cost. Force Breach for example only does like 15% more damage than Shadow Breach, even though it does it over 18 seconds instead of instantly (and does kinetic damage instead of internal I believe, so actually ends up being less.) Go tell that to Lethality/Dirty Tricks IAs/Smugglers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuzz Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Oh you mean all the whiney cry-babies like you that pouted that they didn't know you could cleanse a dot to cap an objective? Those cry-babies? Still Waiting on you to link me the post where I said anything even close to that Kri. Imagine ill be waiting a heck of a long time, seeing as you made it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerbase Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 You want a million bucks while we're at it champ? Seriously what a horrible player the OP must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me_unknown Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Oh you mean all the whiney cry-babies like you that pouted that they didn't know you could cleanse a dot to cap an objective? Those cry-babies? actually this often didn't worked. in 2 out of 3 situations i couldn't cleanse everything that prevented me from tapping. sages cleans removes two effects at random. but maybe i only have bad luck getting full of the hell knows what nearly everytime being in a warzone. focus target number one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielHex Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Some snares can be cleansed. As it's extremely quick to press F1, Cleanse, and tab target who you had before, I fail to see how cleansing is anything but a deciding factor in combating DoT-Heavy Classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briljin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 can i have stealth, or force leap, or some kind of grapple enemy spell. Or how about some more CC.... No but if you ask nicely I am sure someone will teach you the value of cleanse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krionic Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Hm, yes, their guaranteed DoT which is 25% of their resources vs. my cleanse which is almost free... Yes, please do reapply your DoT. Even for PTs/Vanguards, they have to get almost into melee range to reapply their DoT and it still is far more expensive than cleanse. You know what's great at mitigating damage? Running someone else's resources out. Funny - thats the same argument I made about dot spammers. They are only gimping themselves. and while someone MIGHT be able to apply 5 dots on 5 different people before they are destoryed and then 1 of those 5 people i'm sure will have a dot cleaner and you can cap your objective. but 5 is a little much since i'm sure the dot spammer will spend some time CC's stunned knocked back or pulled out of range. Or atleast thats how i handle it. I've never had trouble capping an objective because 1 person spammed his dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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