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How did Revan and Malak’s ex-Republic “Sith” end up prejudiced against aliens?

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How did Revan and Malak’s ex-Republic “Sith” end up prejudiced against aliens?

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ceryxp
09.03.2019 , 10:20 AM | #11
You also have to remember that at that point in KotOR, the occupation and destruction of Taris, Malak was in complete control and it was all their doing. By then Reven had been removed from the 'Sith' for an indeterminate, but certainly not insubstantial, amount of time. Also remember that it was commented on, in KotOR II IIRC, that Malak's approach was entirely different from Revan's. Revan had a plan and purpose. Malak seem solely intent on destruction and domination.
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Thenightvortex
09.03.2019 , 04:29 PM | #12
The sith were not very racist outside of Taris, on Korriban for example they had a twi lek(Ythura) as the right hand of the academy’s master. As pointed above, Revan and Malak were very different in how they led the sith, I think that there was more prejudice after Malak took over since it is said in SWTOR that Revan was not racist. Also it could have been a result of the influence of imperial society.

Overall, I am fairly sure that when devs were creating KOTOR without the thoughts of the new story outside of it, they intended the sith to be racist because they are evil in game. With all retcons and additions to the story, some original parts of it don’t make much sense anymore, this is one of them.

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Ardrossan
09.03.2019 , 06:05 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Thenightvortex View Post
Overall, I am fairly sure that when devs were creating KOTOR without the thoughts of the new story outside of it, they intended the sith to be racist because they are evil in game. With all retcons and additions to the story, some original parts of it don’t make much sense anymore, this is one of them.
Yes, they're the bad guys so they're space-racists. I think the out-of-universe reason is that the original trilogy imperials are xenophobic which is why they're xenophobic in K1 and this game, because the devs at BW looked at the source material for this era [Tales of the Jedi], said 'this is stupid' and went on the make an empire essentially identical to the more familiar Galactic Empire so fans would have something familiar to grasp onto.

And it's debatable if that was the right decision or not. It doesn't really matter for the OP's question, though you have to do a bit of mental gymnastics to get there. It becomes more problematic when you realize that in 4000 years their ship designs, superweapons, and even hairstyles will be the same. But OTOH a lot of stuff in Tales did look really stupid. Like Coruscant would have looked more like an Azeroth ripoff than a high-tech city-planet.
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Celise
09.07.2019 , 01:00 AM | #14
The emperor put Revan and Malak on a collision course with the republic and it wouldn't matter if Revan broke free of the mind dominated effect of the emperor at that point he found the star forge, the fact is that the emperor put Revan and Malak out there in the first place, so whatever happened after that was due in part because of the emperor. there is no escaping his involvement, it isn't all entirely on Revan and Malak when they discovered the star forge and started using it.

Revan and Malak were mind dominated and if their troops could of also distantly been mind dominated as well, like an overwhelming suggestion they can't help but follow but with no ability to control their actions, they could of easily picked up the command to hate aliens and not report to the republic and die for the cause no matter what. the emperor has the ability to mass mind dominate as seen on Ziost and a few hundred years may have passed, but that wouldn't see the emperor as a less version of himself,

Even if Malak had taken the time to change the troops under his command, it would of most certainly had the distant effect from the emperor anyway, because the mind domination would of still been fresh in his mind and a tool to use as a dark lord in building his power base.

i can't see how a dark side Malak would of been able to function on his own after all his life was spent being a Jedi, those are the first thoughts he has to draw on to use as he tries to make sense of what he is doing, but he can't do that so what else does he have to go on? the only thing that he can use is what the emperor left and any training he would of received while under his spell, reciting the sith code and so on. much like the JK in chapter 2 when the JK got mind dominated by the emperor as well and received training from an overseer in the dark arts.