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Update on Ilum Open World PvP issues

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Update on Ilum Open World PvP issues
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01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #501
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to be clear and let you all know that we’re definitely aware of individuals who took extreme advantage of this situation and we will be carefully evaluating and taking action as necessary.
Don't buy it - if that had been the plan, Gabe would have said something - not, we're leaving it open for people to keep doing what they are doing.

I genuinely hope enough subs are lost for you people to get your heads out of your posteriors.

Sadly - I'm done with this. Not playing a game where exploiting is encouraged by the team running it.

Pyrobladex's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #502
No rollback?! Are you kidding? Seriously? What's wrong with you Devs?
Please, just rollback valor rating on prepatch state.

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01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthChamberlin View Post
Greetings everyone,

We are currently aware of potential issues regarding Ilum PVP, Gabe Amatangelo has posted regarding the issue. We are closing this thread at this time, petitions are prohibited on our forums.

At this time we ask that you discuss this topic in this thread: Update on Ilum Open World PvP issues. We ask that you use the thread to continue this discussion and visit the thread for additional updates. Joveth Gonzalez has also posted regarding this in the same thread.

at least we know there are trying to read this forum mess lol you can close a petitioner you cant take his money btw this was a offical post with out the option to quote
Can you say damage control. Devs are non existent in the forums, but the customer service teams will be working overtime to delete and close threads.
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skeletorithalion's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #504
I'm sorry...but what? your not going to roll back the servers or negate all the valor earned in this lawless spree? you have completly negated all the work i have done twards PVP in this game since launch. PLEASE ROLL BACK THE SERVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #505
Quote: Originally Posted by Deathrupter View Post
I am enraged right now.

Also on the verge on unsubbing.

Give us that rollback or you lost 75 % of your clients. If there are any business analysts or financial advisers in that company, please tell them to wake up.
Why be on the verge? Unsub for a while. Send the message.

If they fix it, you can always resub.

If they keep giving us this 'lip service' and poor quality, you will have saved yourself spending your money rewarding their poor work.
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01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #506
Quote: Originally Posted by hargrave View Post
Ilum bases

As ive stated in other posts the main issues with these bases is lack of defenses.

The bases need the following things implented

1. The bases need lot more gaurds and wall turrets. I say this b/c as were seeing really now more then ever that the opposite side can sit in the other sides base.

2. The bases need to be more deeper like the main bases when u land on ilum. They need to be closed off and have 1 entrance in/out

3. Thier needs to be a base boss to kill thats 80 to 100k deep inside of the base. This boss needs to have the highest chance of getting pvp gear/champion bags and even armor pieces in themselves. I base this on how easy it is to take the bases currently. Shooting a rocket and camping the repair box is just not doing. Theres needs to be a raid to go into the base and strategically kill a base boss on top of taking the turrets. This would make for better pvp and more people organizing to fight for an objective

So heres how the base take over should be

1. use rocket launcher kill turrets
2. Fight your way inside the base (should be lots of door gaurds and droids/turrets to fight your way through.
3. Kill the base boss thats a 80-100k deep inside the base then cap the base.
4. Loot boss or chest (This boss must have the highest drop rate for champion bags/commendations and even gear itself)

4. The repair box for the turrets needs to be inside the base why this is outside? I do not know. This makes for harder and a better experience to take the turrets out. Anyone can go shoot a rocket launcher up there and camp the repair box.

5. We need to have healers be able to heal please remove -30 healing

6. We need to have more functional/more useful manable gun turrets

7. Faction imbalance im going to be honest gabe your gonna need to open rvr and other servers ability to come and go to have functional pvp on any server. This issue cannot be adressed with same faction vs same faction. Really need to get this rvr and cross server pvp going

8. Raid assist we cant do much in a raid with no raid assist. Ive complained about this issue in beta. If you want to form a community and have organized groups fighting we need a raid assist badly

These ideas imho would go a long way in ilum i know theres going to be lag and fps issues and theyve stated there working on them.

To gabe i hope you read and consider these ideas. I think this would really improve things if one side could actually defend thier base and putting a base boss would create more raiding and better fun for all.

Please post constructive ideas ill admit like a lot of people im getting very frustrated and i want this to succeed for us all both sides.
I like this guy He doesn't just scream "unsub" without even reading the first post, he actually posts solutions ^_^

You all should be more like this guy
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01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #507
So the republic that went to Ilum today... were you there to try and stop people for farming valor at a rediculous rate? Oh wait you were there to abuse the system too. I didn't go to Ilum today because I am not a 12 year old child who can't earn valor by actually PvPing. LOL at the republic claiming this is all one sided. BTW, I wonder how much valor people would have earned had the republic or the imperials had not gone to Ilum, TO ABUSE THE FAULT IN THE SYSTEM.

If you rollback the valor I earned today by actually playing in WZs I will unsub as well. I agree they should have taken the servers down but I hope the rest of you imperial or republic get banned for cheating.

Toochbag's Avatar

01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #508
Call it Star Wars: The Old Empire

Might as well because the 20% who play Republic are really angry. Myself being one of them. You are already making it harder to play Republic by not rolling back the majority of Sith who exploited this due to sheer numbers.

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01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by GabeAmatangelo View Post

We encourage players to avoid Ilum until our patch is deployed. As a temporary measure we will be disabling taxi services which would normally take players into the Open World PvP area. However, players will still be able to taxi out of the area.

Why wasn't this done 12 or so hours ago? As it is on my server, the Imps outgear Republic before this patch and this just exacerbates the situation even further. A large part of the anger behind the patch was due to the disparity in PvP between the two factions already (with one side being MUCH easier to gain PvP gear than the other) due to one faction outnumbering the other immensely, which the patch was supposedly going to address but actually did the opposite.

Is there going to be any rollback or someway to compensate for the valor gained by the Imperials from today? I know of atleast one character that purposely sat and respawned to give everyone camping as many points as possible. I've already suffered weeks of PvP against fully geared Sith as a level 30-40+ only to hit 50 recently and still suffer with no PvP gear vs fully geared Sith (except now with no lowbies to pick on). There have been many suggestions on how to fix the problem, but when you only win 10% in solo queue and don't have the time to complete dailies while equally ungeared characters can win 3 straight without doing anything on the other side, it makes dailies pointless as well. I understand time invested should be rewarded, but with the current way things are going, Republic PvP on my server will be dead within weeks. I know the "statistics" released showed approximately even scoring wins/loss between the factions overall, but unless you address the disparity within each server, most of this gaming community will just quit.

The problem is there is a lack of dialogue with the devs on whether they are even addressing this issue (or even see it as one) which leaves most of the community fuming and even angrier when bugs like this patch come to fruition. Please build up a better rapport within the community or I'm afraid this community may bail from this game faster than APB sank.

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01.18.2012 , 07:34 PM | #510
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to be clear and let you all know that we’re definitely aware of individuals who took extreme advantage of this situation and we will be carefully evaluating and taking action as necessary.
Glad they're taking action to either reset the abused characters valor or possibly ban them. Being empire myself I was tempted to go and get some easy valor, but felt somewhat cheated out of the fun of doing it myself. I'm glad I didnt take part in this.
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