So I've got some new thoughts about all 3 specs. ALL 3 specs are playable in pvp. Annihilation is atm the best spec for 1vs2/1vs3 because of your selfheal and dat dps. Rage is awesome for teamfights because of your slam crits which does much pressure onto the enemy healer. Carnage is still my favourite, because I love the playstile but I stick atm with Annihilation because, like I wrote above, of the awesome selfheal.

 

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Edited February 17, 2012 by Ilianor

TBH, I think it all depends on your individual play style. I have played a lot of Carnage and Annihilation, and they each have their ups and downs... but overall I prefer Annihilation because it's also awesome for PvE which means I don't have to respec all the time. It's also a lot of fun and the rotation is more complex than Carnage, and I like to be challenged so... yeah. As far as Rage goes, it's just kind of derplolsmash. Not much to it... so it's not too enjoyable for me.

Yeah, I said at the end that every1 should try out all the specs but for me, Rage is awesome for PvP, carnage too, but annihilaton not that good. Dunno, maybe I did something wrong

It seems to me that noobs play Rage, while people who have both hands and all of their fingers play Annihilation and sometimes Carnage. Is it just me or anyone else started noticing it?

 

Okay I mean watch the video - he speced 37 points into Annihilation.

 

 

If you wanna be no skill aoe crit nab - reroll a Juggernaut, they get 30% extra damage on your beloved Smash.

 

Atleast he doesn't cry that we're weak and useless.

Edited February 5, 2012 by Deviltreh

whered you get that white speeder in the beginning of the video? Edited February 5, 2012 by CrazyAl

*ponders why people even bother making these types of videos.

i have way more success with annihilation in PvP.

yesterday we had only dps sages and i was n1 in healing LOL.

i die waaaaaay less and im almost always n1 or n2 (when 2nd is after aoe classes) in damage and kills. 1v1 im indestructible and enemies go down like flies.

Yeah, I said at the end that every1 should try out all the specs but for me, Rage is awesome for PvP, carnage too, but annihilaton not that good. Dunno, maybe I did something wrong

 

Annihilation is pretty great, but it's more for sustained damage in longer fights. Annihilate has great burst damage when it's off cooldown of course, but the real key to the spec is constantly stacking the bleeds. Over time, the damage is too much for any healer to keep up with. The spikes of burst from Annihilate, which has a shorter CD as the fight goes on, is just icing on the cake.

 

I think the "downside" of the spec, for most people, is the fact that it requires you to use more abilities, and to pay more attention to your rotation and status effects, than any of the other specs. With Carnage you pretty much just use what you've got off CD in a certain priority, and in Rage you're pretty much just spamming Smash constantly.

 

In order of the amount of skill it takes to play the spec, from least skill required to most skill required, I would say that it goes: Rage < Carnage < Annihilation. Rage is easiest and Annihilation is hardest. If a player is simply mediocre, he will do best in Rage, around average in Carnage, and horribly in Annihilation. Naturally, the worst players are the ones who are playing in Annihilation although it's far beyond their skill level, just because they heard on the forums or saw in videos that it was supposed to be the best. Of course they're going to get on the forums and whine about how underpowered Marauders are.

 

If all those noobs went and respecced to Rage, they might actually enjoy their class and do half decent... but they'll still never be as good as a skilled Carnage or Annihilation player.

I didn't say that annihilaton isn't good, it's just better for bossfights, because you need all that buffs, and normally they run out really fast. btw, just because you need to take care of your buffs, doesn't mean that player who don't like to play annihilaton are bad.. I just have more fun with carnage.

 

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Edited February 5, 2012 by Ilianor

It seems to me that noobs play Rage, while people who have both hands and all of their fingers play Annihilation and sometimes Carnage. Is it just me or anyone else started noticing it?

 

 

If you wanna be no sko ll aoe crit nab - reroll a Juggernaut, they get 30% extra damage on your beloved Smash.

 

No I didnt notice it, because I find anni as easy as rage to play.

And even if Annihilation does good in pvp...no way an Anni mara will be more useful in Warzones than a Rage Mara, ever. (taking in mind 2 maras equally skilled).

It's more of an "want to play the most effective cookie cutter spec or not?" matter.

 

 

Jugg/guards may be critting harder with their pimped Smash.

But they do not have the survivability Mara does. A rage jugg get focused? He is dead. A mara can make it out of it alive even with no support from teammates.

Now, thats especially important if you solo-queue WZs, or if you like Soloing.

Edited February 5, 2012 by atreyuz

No I didnt notice it, because I find anni as easy as rage to play.

And even if Annihilation does good in pvp...no way an Anni mara will be more useful in Warzones than a Rage Mara, ever.

 

I love rage maras, free kills. nomnomnomnomn

I love rage maras, free kills. nomnomnomnomn

 

Enjoy winning your 1v1 with a rage marauder... while he rips the **** out of your teammates in the rest of the warzone.

No I didnt notice it, because I find anni as easy as rage to play.

And even if Annihilation does good in pvp...no way an Anni mara will be more useful in Warzones than a Rage Mara, ever. (taking in mind 2 maras equally skilled).

It's more of an "want to play the most effective cookie cutter spec or not?" matter.

 

 

Jugg/guards may be critting harder with their pimped Smash.

But they do not have the survivability Mara does. A rage jugg get focused? He is dead. A mara can make it out of it alive even with no support from teammates.

Now, thats especially important if you solo-queue WZs, or if you like Soloing.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

 

im 95% or so of wz first in kills, 1rst to 3rd damage and 3rd to 5th in healing.

HEALING

 

so annimara kills the loads and help m8´s stay longer on the fight.

thats utility no rage mara/jugga has.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

 

im 95% or so of wz first in kills, 1rst to 3rd damage and 3rd to 5th in healing.

HEALING

 

so annimara kills the loads and help m8´s stay longer on the fight.

thats utility no rage mara/jugga has.

 

Get in a WZ with a decent Rage mara dude. Anni is fine, working and competitive.

But Rage > Anni in warzones, and you should know if you played both Anni and Rage specs.

Edited February 5, 2012 by atreyuz

Annihilation is the only marauder spec. Anything else and you're gimping yourself.

Annihilation is the only marauder spec. Anything else and you're gimping yourself.

 

To each his own.

 

Winning 1v2s and 1v3s, and ending with 10-11 medals every Wz tells me that Rage is doing anything but gimp me.

To each his own.

 

Winning 1v2s and 1v3s, and ending with 10-11 medals every Wz tells me that Rage is doing anything but gimp me.

 

You would only do better as Annihilation. I eat Rage marauders from breakfast, lunch and dinner.

********. Rage is the best spec for pvp. Why? 4k instant dmg > dots.

Get in a WZ with a decent Rage mara dude. Anni is fine, working and competitive.

But Rage > Anni in warzones, and you should know if you played both Anni and Rage specs.

 

What exactly is Rage better at than Annihilation? Annihilation burns through armor, so its more effective at taking down enemy ball carriers. Annihilation has faster force leaps, so its better for being the ball carrier or chasing down the enemy carrier (oh by the way, force leap immobilize isn't stopped by resolve). On the subject of force leap, combined with faster disruption, Annihilation is better at killing those pesky healers in all warzones.

 

The ONLY thing rage has over Annihilation is AOE damage, which MAY be useful in Voidstar, but I could argue just as much that taking down specific key targets faster is more useful to the team, which Annihilation does much, much better than Rage.

 

Most people just can't handle the number of hotkeys required to make Annihilation work right, so they default to Rage or Carnage and think its better because their personal numbers are better than when they play Annihilation. Annihilation has the highest potential damage by far because you're also healing yourself which means less downtime being dead.

 

Carnage is the outlier in that its less damage than the other two, but has some nice utility in Deadly Throw root and Ravage root.

Edited February 5, 2012 by ArcadesSabboth

********. Rage is the best spec for pvp. Why? 4k instant dmg > dots.

 

Lol never played Annihilation have you? My annihilate hits for almost 5k, and my dots crit for 1.4k. Come at me with that weak *** rage spec if you want to. I'll roll over your *** lol.

Why do u even write in this damn thread if you didn't watch my video?! If you did so, u would know that I tested all 3 builds.

 

2.) Gimme a proof, that annihilaton hits for 5k.

You would only do better as Annihilation. I eat Rage marauders from breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

It is not about 1v1 , mara vs mara. I can understand anni being quite better at 1v1...

btw, you know why rage would be better for 1vs2?

 

Slam -> high aoe dmg

Berserk + vicious slash -> hits 2 targets...

Edited February 5, 2012 by Ilianor

My annihilate hits for almost 5k

 

Are you actually talking about 5k annihilate trough adrenaline+Relic+5min CD/WZ buff stacking?

Edited February 5, 2012 by atreyuz

Are you actually talking about 5k trough adrenaline+Relic+other **** stacking?

 

No, my annihilate hits for 4.5kish just plain warzone buffed. But I also PvP in PvE gear and I'm damn near full rakata. Like 1800 str self buffed.

Edited February 5, 2012 by Nmaharg