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Macnord
03.18.2012 , 12:12 PM | #1
Hi,

Would be happy if someone that are good at this calculating stuff can figure out what specc best would be used after patch?

Thx ahead, (sry for my grammar)
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theangryllama
03.18.2012 , 12:14 PM | #2
This will really have to wait till after the patch or if some crazy person manages to get high enough on the PTS.

The fact that you can now have training dummies and can parse to an external combat log will solve all of these questions permanently

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Macnord
03.18.2012 , 12:23 PM | #3
Ok, but when reading all the forums it seems like everyone is giving numbers and stuff and some say this and other saying the opposit!?

All i would like to get is some builds that the ppl that throw numbers can calculateout that would work, because the main threads written say that Pyro dps is dead because of heat problem, so is it AP that will be the focus, is there any hybrids that would work?

Is all the numbers and calculates taken from sky?, i dont have the insight or knowledges to do the math...

Thx for any respons
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Macnord
03.18.2012 , 01:02 PM | #4
http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301bMZrsrZcIRrzhhM.1

What do u think?

Could this work or do this heat up to fast?
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langaandy
03.18.2012 , 09:24 PM | #5
My current build is this one,

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...MoZfurbzuhMc.1

its all about attack for me.

personall preference on the retractable blade over thermal detonater. i switch up everynow and then. thermal det is better for pvp, retractable is better for pve imo

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Agooz
03.18.2012 , 09:33 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Macnord View Post
Hi,

Would be happy if someone that are good at this calculating stuff can figure out what specc best would be used after patch?

Thx ahead, (sry for my grammar)
Even if we get this insane nerf, 8/8/25 for PvE. Then ?/?/31 is going to be a must for PvP. It is really sad, that even after a nerf this bad, and Pyro is still better than AP for both PvE and PvP. That's how awful AP is despite the rare few who say otherwise.

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GianBaal
03.18.2012 , 10:43 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Agooz View Post
Even if we get this insane nerf, 8/8/25 for PvE. Then ?/?/31 is going to be a must for PvP. It is really sad, that even after a nerf this bad, and Pyro is still better than AP for both PvE and PvP. That's how awful AP is despite the rare few who say otherwise.
Actually I'm not so sure on that one, unfortunately :-(

right now i use the obvious:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hzZMsZfhMrzGhrs.1

Not a single point surprising, i suppose. After the patch I might actually try a run'n'gun-approach:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...obckzZfhMbdh.1

With the decrased heat-refund from rail "flame barrage" might become interesting, and with the buff to charged gauntlets it might be very close to a guaranteed crit on thoose few rails you have left. "kolto vents" becomes a 6-sec-slow on retr. blade, so you can use flameburst to come in range and retr. blade to ensure you stay there.

This will do alot less dmg from what i do now (obviously), but the increased cc and, of course, "hydraulic overrides" could actually make up for it.

As mentioned this might very well not turn out to be of any real use, but who knows? Another big problem is that i would have to switch from a crit/surge-equipped eliminator to a power/surge tech set. 15% crit on rail won't cut it anymore in that layout, i guess.

I still have hope the nerf is not as bad as it sounds and i can use my current layout, but I highly doubt it...

My 2 cents

EDIT: This is of course for pvp. I have no clue on pve simply because i don't do it. Just thought i mention it.
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Agooz
03.18.2012 , 11:09 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by GianBaal View Post
Actually I'm not so sure on that one, unfortunately :-(

right now i use the obvious:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hzZMsZfhMrzGhrs.1

Not a single point surprising, i suppose. After the patch I might actually try a run'n'gun-approach:

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#30...obckzZfhMbdh.1

With the decrased heat-refund from rail "flame barrage" might become interesting, and with the buff to charged gauntlets it might be very close to a guaranteed crit on thoose few rails you have left. "kolto vents" becomes a 6-sec-slow on retr. blade, so you can use flameburst to come in range and retr. blade to ensure you stay there.

This will do alot less dmg from what i do now (obviously), but the increased cc and, of course, "hydraulic overrides" could actually make up for it.

As mentioned this might very well not turn out to be of any real use, but who knows? Another big problem is that i would have to switch from a crit/surge-equipped eliminator to a power/surge tech set. 15% crit on rail won't cut it anymore in that layout, i guess.

I still have hope the nerf is not as bad as it sounds and i can use my current layout, but I highly doubt it...

My 2 cents

EDIT: This is of course for pvp. I have no clue on pve simply because i don't do it. Just thought i mention it.
It is a rash respec in my opinion. The things you will gain in the AP tree still does not compensate for the dps loss of Rain of Fire, firebug, burnout, and TD.

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GianBaal
03.18.2012 , 11:23 PM | #9
I know that. I simply don't expect the burst without railshot to be effective, aka enough to kill people fast enough. So the idea behind this is to cripple people, have the means to get out and leave nasty, power-based dots behind. And the new quell might actually be enough to be a menace for healers.

As mentioned i don't know yet if that is viable. But after 1.2 BM-equipp and therefore 58 mods and enhancements will be dirtcheap, so trying it out won't be much of a hustle imo.
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Macnord
03.19.2012 , 12:40 AM | #10
I can see some nice things in AP like H-overdrive in pvp Huttball that would be lovley, but the dps is fallin hard in your succested tree, not that dps is all that matters!

Maybe that will be fun playing, me i have always feelt slow in pvp in all scenses, mostly beacuse the lack of escape and a bit sqizzie when not butting pints in Sheild tree!

I guess that if you dont entierly focus on dps and more about mobility and function AP would work in pvp, but your no Tank and less of an DPS player, you can still get your 8-10medals if streetsmart in your playstile

thx for your input
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