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Crystal Hunt or Lootbox Craze? Pick your poison..

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Crystal Hunt or Lootbox Craze? Pick your poison..

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Kissakias
01.10.2019 , 07:38 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeroTypeR View Post
Such is true, I've gotten a lot of that. What I do to rid myself of unwanted stuff is disintegrate them for UC's to use on alt's, that way it all ends up being useful still (the pieces give atleast 175 UC's).
but we dont know what armor part will be till we open it and see it in our inventory, to disintegrate it, we need to do it while is still into its reward pack, only solution is to run 10 dailies in multiple chars that we dont want to armor up them so to gain only 175 UCs that are still small amount
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01.10.2019 , 07:44 PM | #12
Lootbox, because I solo and can't do the things to get the crystals alone.
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01.10.2019 , 08:00 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeroTypeR View Post
Such is true, I've gotten a lot of that. What I do to rid myself of unwanted stuff is disintegrate them for UC's to use on alt's, that way it all ends up being useful still (the pieces give atleast 175 UC's).
Yeah, but here's the thing. You need 1500 unassembled components (if done over 3 weeks, 2000 if done over two weeks) to get enough MDCs for just one 252 piece, and a cheap one at that. That means it will take 9 disintegrations to get enough UCs. Is a one in nine chance to get the piece you want reasonable? I think its a fair point for debate either way. That number goes up for more expensive pieces, and for that off-class piece you need to optimize your stats. Remember, the reason you are disassembling the piece is because you don't need it … and for the foreseeable future, that likely means you need a different piece for your main … not that you are stockpiling for alts.

175 is a much better number than the absurdly low 10 we get for 248s though, so I guess I can be grateful for that.
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supercometl
01.10.2019 , 08:00 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightblazer View Post
  1. Bring back PvP gear with expertise
  2. Have two currencies: Crystals for PvE only gear, Commendations for PvP only gear.
  3. Only earn Crystals via PvE activities including: Heroics, OPS, FPs, Conquest, Weeklies
  4. Commendations earned via PvP only activities including: GSF, WZs, Arenas, Weekies
  5. PvP only needs Commendations to purchase with higher Tiers requiring more Commendations
  6. PvE only needs Crystals only, or Slot specific token from OPS boss drop plus 50% or 40% less crystals to purchase with higher tier's costing more crystals.
  7. When new tier's added, lowest tier goes to vendor who sells for credits only, newest tier goes to most expensive list.
  8. PvP / PvE Augment schematics that can be purchased from special vendors for Crystals / Commendations.
  9. Separate Augments for PvP / PvE.
The only thing I would add is to have the PVE gear still dropping from GC. I know people dislike it, but it works well as a side gearing, not as the main gearing. Even pvp gear could drop from it with some form of toggle, PVE focus or PVP focus, which gives stats gear for each respective group. Additional gear is only a good thing, and I still like GC in concept, and the execution is pretty decent, at this point.

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annabethchase
01.10.2019 , 08:18 PM | #15
I'm very ok with the concept of the crystals, being a concept of you advance "no faster" than x per week. Problem is the execution is horrible. 1 week can be 10 minutes, the next 5+ hours.
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IoNonSoEVero
01.10.2019 , 11:50 PM | #16
As I said in the other thread, on paper I'd prefer crystals because it removes the RNG aspect. I'd rather be able to buy what I need. But in practice the boxes and UCs are what I would prefer because I am never going to do any of the things that lead to crystals and the exchange rate for UCs is too rich for my blood.

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Nightblazer
01.11.2019 , 12:00 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by supercometl View Post
The only thing I would add is to have the PVE gear still dropping from GC. I know people dislike it, but it works well as a side gearing, not as the main gearing. Even pvp gear could drop from it with some form of toggle, PVE focus or PVP focus, which gives stats gear for each respective group. Additional gear is only a good thing, and I still like GC in concept, and the execution is pretty decent, at this point.
I'd rather remove all aspect of RNG include GC from the equation. Even with OPS bosses each boss should always drop a specific slot token as they do now where Boss A always drops a gloves token that any class can use.

RNG just should just be fully removed which is why I feel Heroics for the planets should drop crystals for PvE. Then just have a rotation daily bonus like now where one day OPS rewards 10% or 20% crystals for the day. Then next day it's Heroics.

Heck even add the PvE Space Combat missions with an associated weekly that rewards crystals for completing the weekly.

Remove RNG, add choices and just let players choose how they want to earn them. Of course the cost values should be high enough to ensure that people can't buy pieces too quickly yet not too high to where it takes forever to earn enough crystals or Commendations.

Mainly just get rid of the RNG and allow for more okayer choice.
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ZeroTypeR
01.11.2019 , 07:08 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
Yeah, but here's the thing. You need 1500 unassembled components (if done over 3 weeks, 2000 if done over two weeks) to get enough MDCs for just one 252 piece, and a cheap one at that. That means it will take 9 disintegrations to get enough UCs. Is a one in nine chance to get the piece you want reasonable? I think its a fair point for debate either way. That number goes up for more expensive pieces, and for that off-class piece you need to optimize your stats. Remember, the reason you are disassembling the piece is because you don't need it … and for the foreseeable future, that likely means you need a different piece for your main … not that you are stockpiling for alts.

175 is a much better number than the absurdly low 10 we get for 248s though, so I guess I can be grateful for that.
True, but the UC's won't be going toward 252 gear for alt's, only 236 - 248 (so not a bad amount), only my main will be 252 geared. I neither have the time, patience, nor interest to spend time grinding to gear up alt's to 252.




On a different note, the loot box 252 crate does show what piece of gear you get, followed by a disintegration or claim option. 9/10 I choose to disintegrate, because I either have it already or have no use for the piece.

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ZeroTypeR
01.11.2019 , 07:20 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by annabethchase View Post
I'm very ok with the concept of the crystals, being a concept of you advance "no faster" than x per week. Problem is the execution is horrible. 1 week can be 10 minutes, the next 5+ hours.
Exactly, it's very inconsistent and I'd end up taking part in quests that I REALLY don't want to do: GSF in which I rarely ever get a win or even play, MM Fp's that are far too much work for one measly crystal, and who knows what else.

I was fine with it when there was the 8 silver medals in PVP and had hoped other quests would've been similar, but no. Hence, me putting an end to the whole thing.

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DawnAskham
01.11.2019 , 10:25 AM | #20
That is like asking whether I want to be punched in the face or kicked in the shin.

The answer of course is neither - which is why I've pretty much stopped playing as well as cancelled my sub.

If and when they add new content, I'll check back and see if the content holds interest.

But grinding gear for gear's sake is not something I enjoy and therefore not something I will do.