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Im sorry but this "expansion" was terrible.

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Im sorry but this "expansion" was terrible.

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akdonkey
10.23.2019 , 02:52 PM | #11
Maybe if they had backed off some of the clutter filling the streets and the Mek-Ska map they could have added a bit more story. It was ok in my book a bit short. The graphic details seemed over the top for me. My PC has never had any graphic issues. Today I had Lag, I believe its from over Detailing.

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GeneralRhodes
10.23.2019 , 03:25 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by SteveTheCynic View Post
SoR itself only got two FPs, Blood Hunt and Battle of Rishi.

The four that appear in Prelude / Forged Alliances (Tython, Korriban, Manaan and Rakata Prime) were released a couple of months before SoR, and Ziost (Rise of the Emperor) was released after.

And the Onslaught FP was seriously glitchy. I had multiple instances of being unable to shoot Imp soldiers that were standing about six feet from my character on the same piece of ground, "Cannot See Target".
I second that FPs are glitchy statement. I had to quit about five minutes into it as an imperial because the very first boss I ran into a) could barely be scratched, b) did insane amounts of damage constantly, c) glitched out my heroic moment so I couldn't even use that to throw some decent damage and heal and d) reset itself multiple times when I switched my aggro to one of the mobs surrounding it. Just said nope and quit right then and there

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The graphic details seemed over the top for me. My PC has never had any graphic issues. Today I had Lag, I believe its from over Detailing.
Yeah its doing that for me as well. It was getting so bad I had to turn everything as low as possible and can still barely run anything in an actually playable manner now. Especially the first planet. Not sure what it is with this game and jungle planets but they're always laggy as hell. But at least they used to be playable. Now it takes 10x longer than it should just to get around

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Suzsi
10.23.2019 , 03:30 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by MCHentz View Post
I disagree with the OP, I just want some new story.
^^^ Always this.

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ZionHalcyon
10.23.2019 , 03:43 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by MCHentz View Post
I suspect #1 will happen.
I am cautiously optimistic about this.

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Twofangs
10.23.2019 , 03:44 PM | #15
Has any one seen what they have done to CC Comps in that it's double the cost of gifts from the Jawas and less influence given ( from green gifts ).

That was the last straw for me I just unsubbed . meh gear drops .. people say we are getting differents items well how long before that dries up and you the same **** again again and again.

Bye might be back in 2021

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sharkfishman
10.23.2019 , 03:47 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Twofangs View Post
Has any one seen what they have done to CC Comps in that it's double the cost of gifts from the Jawas and less influence given ( from green gifts ).

That was the last straw for me I just unsubbed . meh gear drops .. people say we are getting differents items well how long before that dries up and you the same **** again again and again.

Bye might be back in 2021
I saw the prices, but I didn't see the influence.

Ironically, what made me stop subbing years ago (and stay away for 3 years after having been a regular sub for a long time) was when they took away our companion bonuses and hid them behind an endless grind to the arbitrary number 50.

Kind of like how they took away our set bonuses at level 75 because they're better than most of the new ones. Good thing I only have 8 days left on my sub.
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10.23.2019 , 03:50 PM | #17
If you guys were paying attention the last few years you'd realize this was never going to be a big or true expansion because they lack the proper funding and resources that are allotted to their department. And not enough people play the game anymore, we are down to a handful of servers. This will probably be the last expansion but we may see small updates over the next few years as the games trickles down to maintenance mode.
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steveerkcanjerk
10.23.2019 , 04:06 PM | #18
yeah to call this an expansion is just not accurate. Expansions should expand upon the game not just story wise. There needs to be meaningful content to do and alot ot see. Let's just break it down here real quick and lets take the RNG aspects and set them to the side as it is a heavily flawed system and was not needed lets just put it down and look at the other stuff.

- I got to level 75 and completed the whole thing in an hour and a half. That is not even an afternoon of play time.
- The story was better then previous dlc (cause kotet and those chapters were also not expansions and did the weird you are the guy story) but was way to short.
- There was very little side content, like the only side quest i saw on onderon was collecting items at poi spots. that is.....not interesting, here you have a planet of nobles and you can't make side content? Really?
- The planets looked nice but were way too small and lacked density of content to make up for it. I can understand making smaller regions budget and crunch (i work in development I get it). But you need to make those dense with content then so they don't feel small.
- dailies don't count towards meaningful content.
- Flashpoint was a bit underwhelming and only the final boss was memorable.
- havent touched the op but lets not forget that SOR the last real expansion, Added TOS raid, Ravagers raid, ancient threat WB, Walker WB. Not to mention like what was it 6 flashpoints with some pretty decent bosses. Then it had a planet with side content to do and see, and even had a quest related to each persons class story. So lets stop calling this an expansion.

There is just some of the stuff looking at it in a wider view. Not even getting in the nitty gritty. But gearing rework is not expansive, it is a rework. notice I did not include the skill tree to proficiency change in the SOR gist. Because that is reworking a system. Expansion to gameplay is things like adding a new class, or new specs which are literally different ways to play and EXPAND on the old way of playing. This "expansion" does not do that. You will be doing the same **** you were doing 2 weeks ago but now its all rng instead and eveything is a credit sink like it is some indepth sandbox with a functioning economy where those who gtn and buy from the market daily will prosper. Also the idea that this is free and not payed for like other expansions is wrong. Its called 14.99 every damn month. And they could not even charge for this even if i had to pay a bit extra.

There is also the argument of just moving as i have seen in other places on the forums. That is the dumbest thing to come out of people's mouths on here. This is an mmo, it has taken a tremendous amount of time (been subbed since launch) out of my life, i am now an adult working and finishing college, i was in 8th grade when this game came out ot build perspective. I have made great life long friends on this game so telling people to just drop the game is alot easier said then done. And for alot of us we don't want to stop playing tor but the way devs keep pushing us further and further away no matter how much money, support, and time i give them sucks. I love mmos, i love star wars, i love the old republic era, and I loved bioware (the studio that pushed me to become a programmer and a writer). So to come and say hey just drop the game and move on is not like dropping call of duty for a couple of years. I want to be here I just wish the devs acted like they cared just al little and wanted to be here to. Sorry for the spelling was on my lunch and browsing the forums.

I hate doing this, ripping into what are my peers in the industry, and espcially the studio that was like my hero studio to pursue the career i have now. i want this game to be fun and good, I don't ask for alot, just allocate resources correctly and do one thing right. Now i am gonna offer some solutions.

- Focus, instead of two planets lets flush out one instead. That way more focus could be put on onderson and really add more quests and flush it out.
- stop reworking gear and add new content instead
- stop focusing on gui and focus on gameplay
- add more classes
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jimmorrisson
10.23.2019 , 09:42 PM | #19
I am ok with having little to no mobs around
What I am not ok with is 6.0's gearing in general along with the difficulty and companion changes

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Azerdayne
10.23.2019 , 10:04 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by steveerkcanjerk View Post
yeah to call this an expansion is just not accurate. Expansions should expand upon the game not just story wise. There needs to be meaningful content to do and alot ot see. Let's just break it down here real quick and lets take the RNG aspects and set them to the side as it is a heavily flawed system and was not needed lets just put it down and look at the other stuff.

- I got to level 75 and completed the whole thing in an hour and a half. That is not even an afternoon of play time.
- The story was better then previous dlc (cause kotet and those chapters were also not expansions and did the weird you are the guy story) but was way to short.
- There was very little side content, like the only side quest i saw on onderon was collecting items at poi spots. that is.....not interesting, here you have a planet of nobles and you can't make side content? Really?
- The planets looked nice but were way too small and lacked density of content to make up for it. I can understand making smaller regions budget and crunch (i work in development I get it). But you need to make those dense with content then so they don't feel small.
- dailies don't count towards meaningful content.
- Flashpoint was a bit underwhelming and only the final boss was memorable.
- havent touched the op but lets not forget that SOR the last real expansion, Added TOS raid, Ravagers raid, ancient threat WB, Walker WB. Not to mention like what was it 6 flashpoints with some pretty decent bosses. Then it had a planet with side content to do and see, and even had a quest related to each persons class story. So lets stop calling this an expansion.

There is just some of the stuff looking at it in a wider view. Not even getting in the nitty gritty. But gearing rework is not expansive, it is a rework. notice I did not include the skill tree to proficiency change in the SOR gist. Because that is reworking a system. Expansion to gameplay is things like adding a new class, or new specs which are literally different ways to play and EXPAND on the old way of playing. This "expansion" does not do that. You will be doing the same **** you were doing 2 weeks ago but now its all rng instead and eveything is a credit sink like it is some indepth sandbox with a functioning economy where those who gtn and buy from the market daily will prosper. Also the idea that this is free and not payed for like other expansions is wrong. Its called 14.99 every damn month. And they could not even charge for this even if i had to pay a bit extra.

There is also the argument of just moving as i have seen in other places on the forums. That is the dumbest thing to come out of people's mouths on here. This is an mmo, it has taken a tremendous amount of time (been subbed since launch) out of my life, i am now an adult working and finishing college, i was in 8th grade when this game came out ot build perspective. I have made great life long friends on this game so telling people to just drop the game is alot easier said then done. And for alot of us we don't want to stop playing tor but the way devs keep pushing us further and further away no matter how much money, support, and time i give them sucks. I love mmos, i love star wars, i love the old republic era, and I loved bioware (the studio that pushed me to become a programmer and a writer). So to come and say hey just drop the game and move on is not like dropping call of duty for a couple of years. I want to be here I just wish the devs acted like they cared just al little and wanted to be here to. Sorry for the spelling was on my lunch and browsing the forums.

I hate doing this, ripping into what are my peers in the industry, and espcially the studio that was like my hero studio to pursue the career i have now. i want this game to be fun and good, I don't ask for alot, just allocate resources correctly and do one thing right. Now i am gonna offer some solutions.

- Focus, instead of two planets lets flush out one instead. That way more focus could be put on onderson and really add more quests and flush it out.
- stop reworking gear and add new content instead
- stop focusing on gui and focus on gameplay
- add more classes
To be 100% fair in your listing, there *is* a world boss on Mek-Sha. The Dread Pirate, 38 mil hp.

Otherwise, I agree.