Drayzen Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm not going to write out some huge retort about how the lack of this has negatively impacted my experience, when BW specifically said they would cater to multiple aspects of gameplay and story, and hasn't followed through. I just want 1.2 to contain things for players who are neutral. I want to be able to use my choice of saber, I want to be able to not miss out on relics because some designer thought that making light and dark only would be a fantastically shortsighted idea, and I just want to be able to play how I want to play, not play how I have to play to be able to min-max my character. Make it happen in 1.2. It's already disappointing that you haven't done it in 1.1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicSkimmr Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What happens if they don't listen to your demands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzen Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Then I cancel my account and protest their non-sense with my money. This was supposed to be a launch feature, and since the game was rushed, players got the short end of the stick. It isn't hard to code in some damn items. I guarantee they are going to code in a few hundred new ones with the next update, so they can take the time to code in a few more. Edited January 27, 2012 by Drayzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadaKai Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 people will cry about anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfmii Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) +1 I wont demand that it happen right now, but very very soon please. While I am not a huge RPer I do a small bit of it during questing. I like playing the fence on my smuggler and BH. Both of these classes are suited to make 'credit' first decisions, light/dark side be damned. as a result of this I am currently sitting at -188 dark side and probably wont devaite too far one way or another. Im sure this argument has been presented 100 times before, but I just wanted to add my 2 cents Edited January 27, 2012 by Nerfmii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisared Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 people will cry about anything /\ this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzen Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 people will cry about anything What? Cry? This is a valid complaint. They said we could have Neutral based characters, but guess what? I can't have Relics if I'm neutral. Which means EVERY SINGLE OTHER ALIGNED CHARACTER IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ME. That is not equal. That is not fair. They are forcing me away from - MY STORY - with this design, and that in itself is against their advertising claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaltom Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 "I want a toilet made out of solid gold but it's just not in the cards now is it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzen Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I want one of you to tell me why this isn't a valid complaint. Please tell me. Because you can't. Which means your little non-nonsensical trolling is nothing but you being tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froth Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What? Cry? This is a valid complaint. They said we could have Neutral based characters, but guess what? I can't have Relics if I'm neutral. Which means EVERY SINGLE OTHER ALIGNED CHARACTER IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ME. That is not equal. That is not fair. They are forcing me away from - MY STORY - with this design, and that in itself is against their advertising claims. Aren't force aligned rewards strictly cosmetic and don't effect character gameplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzen Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Aren't force aligned rewards strictly cosmetic and don't effect character gameplay? No. Relics provide stat bonuses and on use effects and there are - NO - Neutral relics. All of them REQUIRE an alignment. You also can't get a majority of the Orange Items. Edited January 27, 2012 by Drayzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Coffee Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I agree. I mean, I won't quit over this, but I'd love to hear a Dev response(Which will probably be "We are looking into it"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerfmii Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Aren't force aligned rewards strictly cosmetic and don't effect character gameplay? quite a few relics and other high lvl items require light or dark 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resallaprov Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What? Cry? This is a valid complaint. They said we could have Neutral based characters, but guess what? I can't have Relics if I'm neutral. Which means EVERY SINGLE OTHER ALIGNED CHARACTER IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ME. That is not equal. That is not fair. They are forcing me away from - MY STORY - with this design, and that in itself is against their advertising claims. Here's an idea, quit being Neutral. People that can't make up their minds on being good or bad deserve nothing as they have done nothing for either. Sorry you can't use those awesome dark/light relics. Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win? Sorry, saw Full Metal Jacket this past weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamHDMI Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) This is problem for us people who want to go more down the middle. I almost feel like I'm being forced to go a certain path. This can't be the way this game was ment to be designed, this hasn't been the case in other BioWare games. Edited January 27, 2012 by AdamHDMI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterShake Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Bioware: Hello, gamer! We have created a story driven MMO for you! How story driven? Well, we've forgone many standard features of regular MMOs (not to mention we have some bugs!!!) just so we could allocate as many resources as possible to your story experience. If you love story, this is the game for you! Gamer: Sounds good, overly excited Bioware person. Thanks. 10 hours later.... Gamer: So I really like this story, Bioware. It's immerse and exciting. I'm playing an Empire Bounty Hunter who is driven by credits, but who also has a sense of honor. I find I'm pretty neutral when comes to your dark/light scale. Bioware: Well that's just great, gamer! Glad you're enjoying the story and becoming immersed in it. By the way, you will now have access to less gear because you didn't pick your answers correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzen Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Here's an idea, quit being Neutral. People that can't make up their minds on being good or bad deserve nothing as they have done nothing for either. Sorry you can't use those awesome dark/light relics. Sorry, saw Full Metal Jacket this past weekend. Your arguement is invalid. This is not a situation where I am simply just going to align myself and ruin my story, which Bioware so heavily covets. This is my story, and my story for this specific character is neutral. I want Bioware to fix their issues, and supply me with Neutral loot. It's only fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevalaricgirl Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 People can be such @sses. Bioware can easily put this in their game. The OP has a valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladonis Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 No. Relics provide stat bonuses and on use effects and there are - NO - Neutral relics. All of them REQUIRE an alignment. You also can't get a majority of the Orange Items. You can actually get relics without an alignment restriction through heroic flashpoints and pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronamo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 No. Relics provide stat bonuses and on use effects and there are - NO - Neutral relics. All of them REQUIRE an alignment. You also can't get a majority of the Orange Items. Insofar as I know, you're mistaken. There are quite a few relics that are not alignment specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnouss Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Here's an idea, quit being Neutral. People that can't make up their minds on being good or bad deserve nothing as they have done nothing for either. Sorry you can't use those awesome dark/light relics. Sorry, saw Full Metal Jacket this past weekend. He actually is making up his mind - he's playing according to how he believes his character would act in a situation - not making mindless choices because he feels forced to go one side or the other because of gear restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzen Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Insofar as I know, you're mistaken. There are quite a few relics that are not alignment specific. Not the high end ones from vendors that you get from Heroics/Nightmare or PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_x Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) [Gray Crystal] +0 to nothing but makes your lightsaber gray. [Robes of Apathy] +0 to nothing but allows entrance to emo Hipster club in Fleet Edited January 27, 2012 by ninja_x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froth Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 No. Relics provide stat bonuses and on use effects and there are - NO - Neutral relics. All of them REQUIRE an alignment. You also can't get a majority of the Orange Items. Ah ic. A few questions to the OP. 1. If everyone gets the reward regardless of how they play, is it no longer a reward? Why not just get rid of it? 2. Being grey represents an inability to choose between good or evil, why should you get a reward for basically doing nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keii Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I think you meant to say "no excuses...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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