Again, that's not possible. Viruses can't be inserted via short-range comm channels, they are not designed to transmit that kind or that much information. Nor do we have evidence of it happening in the Star Wars universe - we can't start making stuff up. It is possible it could be sent over sub-space trancievers or the HoloNet, but Traya will only be using ship-to-ship communication. If any at all.

 

So the only way to download the virus is by boarding the ship, granted a stealthed vessel could deploy some stealthed HK units to download the virus. But as soon as one ship fails, the other ships will destroy it. Sure G0-T0 could rinse and repeat, but stealth tech is very expensive and Traya will soon get wise to his tricks, shutdown all the ships systems so they cannot be hacked.

Well...IG-88 did hack into Mechis 3 defense network from space, shutting the droid factory down and infecting all the droids with his sentience. ...But then again that is IG-88.

This is just it, despite having debated for over 50 pages, I have yet to come across a single death argument that bears even the slightest weight.

'Tis what Happens when you pick two forces relying on stealth and manipulation...

Imagine a shadow/assassin vs a scoundrel/operative, they have the ability to come close to destroying the enemy, but each of them has something they can fall back on If they even START to lose.

'Tis what Happens when you pick two forces relying on stealth and manipulation...

Imagine a shadow/assassin vs a scoundrel/operative, they have the ability to come close to destroying the enemy, but each of them has something they can fall back on If they even START to lose.

There have been battles like this before, and there always came a winner in the end. But anyway Beni, I suggest just going with the closest scenario that makes the most sense when it comes up for either side. Otherwise, were all just gonna be here going round and round getting nowhere with this.

Well...IG-88 did hack into Mechis 3 defense network from space, shutting the droid factory down and infecting all the droids with his sentience. ...But then again that is IG-88.

Yup, and he doesn't even have to use the traditional comm channels.

Any system that is connected to the main computer that takes in data, can be used to hack the computer or send a computer virus, despite what ben says.

I also suggested the Friend/Foe transponder signals, which ships use to identify friendly vessels, that's another way pull off the hacking.

Really, I don't think G0-T0 would particularly care if Traya's fleet is destroyed or taken over. While taking over the fleet would be a bonus, having them destroy each other works just as well.

Since ben is suggesting that they have to access a computer terminal on the ship.

Scenario:

G0-T0 has stealth vessels drop off teams of HK-50s on the hull of each vessel (each of them has cutting tools (with a few extra power packs, standard weapons, grenades, etc.). Once the HK units are all in place they launch a coordinated assault by cutting a hole into the hull at a strategic point on the ship. They then hack the computer of each ship and proceed to vent the ship's atmosphere.

Alternate method

The HK units walk up the hull of the ships until they are around the bridge area. They then slap shaped charges (high-explosive), on the transparisteel windows with a 5 second delay (the fact they are shaped charges enables to HK units to get clear). This would all be in tandem so no-one would have time to react.

The charges are detonated and everyone on the bridges of these vessels are potentially vented into space. The HK-units then casually walk into the bridge and proceed to vent the atmosphere from the entire ship using the bridge controls (could also shut down life support).

They then proceed to inspect the ship and shoot every body (to make sure they are really dead) they find in the head (just to be sure).

Now G0-T0 has himself a new fleet of capital ships for him to go bombard planets.

G0-T0 then launches a strike on Malachor V and triggers the MSG (which Traya flees to Korriban).

Then G0-T0 heads to Korriban after her and has his new fleet conduct an orbital bombardment of all man-made structures on Korriban.

Finally, G0-T0 institutes a blockade of Korriban so that Traya has no way of receiving supplies.

Either she dies of starvation (not a pretty way to die), gets blasted out of the sky when she tries to flee Korriban, kills herself, or she simply dies of old age.

In any case G0-T0 is the victor.

I'd like to note that if Traya posesses the entirety of Triumverate forces, then she not only has thousands of Sith assassins, war veterans, and a plethura of Dark Jedi Knights, Masters and Apprentices, she also has Sith Alchemy on her side in the form of Sithspawn and dark beasts (See Onderon and Dxun)

Just to throw out a few things I don't think were mentioned:

Kreia and G0-T0 have stealth, but Kreia has an actual flotilla of war ships. Why anyone would suggest that G0-T0 has space superiority is beyond me. I know Smuggler's broke the Mandalorian blockade, but we're running a Kaggath, not a blockade. The Exchange has no noteworthy fleet to speak of.

With the bigger ships, Kreia's fleet has the ability to decimate G0-T0's ground bases. She doesn't need to stay long, just long enough to wreck the place. If the base is underground, storm it with ground forces and Sith beasts. We're talking pirates and a limited amount of assassin droids (they did not work in large numbers) versus Sith forces and replenishable war beasts.

Remember Nihilus' fleet (Traya's in this case, minus the Ravager) is a ghost fleet, meaning it roams around and indeed performs hit and runs when necessary.

We also know the Sith Assassins (under Sion) had an unspecified number of warships, at very minimum one which they used to bait the Harbinger into a trap. Let's see... abandon a nearly intact (or already damaged) Sith Warship, lure G0-T0's smugglers and scavengers there and-oop! we now have assassins aboard the Sith warship AND their vessels.

now someone else can elaborate on this, but what if Traya does plant bait of an abandoned warship? Could they really resist that target, given G0-T0's ability to potentially outfit it with a Stygium cloaking device? Or perhaps claim that Traya herself is onboard the vessel, and perhaps she is.

What if the Sith Fleet could lie in waiting for them to swarm the warship?

2 potential outcomes:

1) G0-T0 sees and desires the tactical advantage converting one of the Sith warships would bring, and therefore rushes to it with as many vessels as he can bring. He goes with because he doesn't exactly have the facilities to outfit the vessel with a cloaking device, so he might as well repair and outfit it where he finds it, that way he can get it up and in action ASAP. This would lead to his ultimate downfall as all boarders would findthemselves in a hornet's nest, force pikes and lightsabers decimating them, oh, and since it's their warship, automated systems would indeed be activating.

More importantly, G0-T0 himself docks or remains near the warship. If he docks, he's dead. Let's not even pretend he has a chance. If he remains on his yacht, even in stealth, still dead. Why? BAM the greater trap is sprung, Sith warships and interdictors surround the "abandoned" vessel and decimate all the silly little craft who thought they could get away. The interdictors activate and prevent hyperspace travel, Sith Interceptors scan and patrol the surrounding area, blasting around to flush out the cloaked yacht (much like using depth charges to force submarines out of hiding) G0-T0 is eventually found and blasted into space dust. Kaggath over, have a nice night.

2) G0-T0 does NOT come with the fleet. Assassins stuffed on the abandoned craft then fan out to G0-T0's boarders' craft. From there, they spread like a plague, gathering intelligence and finding the location of G0-T0's yacht and all of his operations. When they find it, see sprung trap from scenario#1 Also, in the event that G0-T0 DOES have a star dock where he can bring the interdictor, then he may indeed send it there, get it operational, crew it, PERHAPS place a cloaking device in it. If this happens, assassins still aboard the interdictor either rat out its location (giving the enemy the false notion that they have the element of surprise) or pull a harbinger and take it back, giving Traya the stealth warship. There's also the chance that G0-T0 would use the warship instead of his yacht, if it has the same advantages of the yacht plus more. Then see scenario#1, add Sith Boarders (those war beasts I mentioned earlier, Sith Lords, EVERYTHING to smash the ship and prevent his escape)

Either way, even if G0-T0 survives, he's either lost a significant portion of his spaceworthy smugglers and techs, or given Traya a new toy with which to terrorize him.

a few things I'm going to preemptively debunk:

1) HK-50s would detect the assassins.

No, please play Kotor2 and understand that the HK-50s are incapable of detecting Traya's assassins.

2) they would gas the ship before boarding it.

No. A) They would want to get the ship operational as soon as possible, and gas takes time to vent. B) The assassins can hide in an air tight compartment when they gas. C) The gas may be detected by the life support systems, meaning infected sections would automatically be quarantined or jetisoned entirely for the ship.

3) G0-T0 would know it's a trap.

The entire premise of the scenario is that Traya makes taking the warship an irresistable advantage, meaning G0-T0's assessment of the situation would put the value of the warship above the possibility of the trap.

4) G0-T0 can infect everyone's computer systems.

ORLY!?!?! that didn't seem to help him when his yacht got bushwacked by a bunch of two-bit bountyhunters. No, this wouldn't happen.

Yup, and he doesn't even have to use the traditional comm channels.

 

Any system that is connected to the main computer that takes in data, can be used to hack the computer or send a computer virus, despite what ben says.

 

I also suggested the Friend/Foe transponder signals, which ships use to identify friendly vessels, that's another way pull off the hacking.

 

Really, I don't think G0-T0 would particularly care if Traya's fleet is destroyed or taken over. While taking over the fleet would be a bonus, having them destroy each other works just as well.

 

Since ben is suggesting that they have to access a computer terminal on the ship.

 

Scenario:

G0-T0 has stealth vessels drop off teams of HK-50s on the hull of each vessel (each of them has cutting tools (with a few extra power packs, standard weapons, grenades, etc.). Once the HK units are all in place they launch a coordinated assault by cutting a hole into the hull at a strategic point on the ship. They then hack the computer of each ship and proceed to vent the ship's atmosphere.

 

Alternate method

 

The HK units walk up the hull of the ships until they are around the bridge area. They then slap shaped charges (high-explosive), on the transparisteel windows with a 5 second delay (the fact they are shaped charges enables to HK units to get clear). This would all be in tandem so no-one would have time to react.

 

The charges are detonated and everyone on the bridges of these vessels are potentially vented into space. The HK-units then casually walk into the bridge and proceed to vent the atmosphere from the entire ship using the bridge controls (could also shut down life support).

 

They then proceed to inspect the ship and shoot every body (to make sure they are really dead) they find in the head (just to be sure).

 

 

Now G0-T0 has himself a new fleet of capital ships for him to go bombard planets.

 

G0-T0 then launches a strike on Malachor V and triggers the MSG (which Traya flees to Korriban).

 

Then G0-T0 heads to Korriban after her and has his new fleet conduct an orbital bombardment of all man-made structures on Korriban.

 

Finally, G0-T0 institutes a blockade of Korriban so that Traya has no way of receiving supplies.

 

Either she dies of starvation (not a pretty way to die), gets blasted out of the sky when she tries to flee Korriban, kills herself, or she simply dies of old age.

 

In any case G0-T0 is the victor.

hey are we supposed to base our scenarios on what is within the known possibilities of each force, or can I make stuff up like this guy?

We also know the Sith Assassins (under Sion) had an unspecified number of warships, at very minimum one which they used to bait the Harbinger into a trap. Let's see... abandon a nearly intact (or already damaged) Sith Warship, lure G0-T0's smugglers and scavengers there and-oop! we now have assassins aboard the Sith warship AND their vessels.

 

now someone else can elaborate on this, but what if Traya does plant bait of an abandoned warship? Could they really resist that target, given G0-T0's ability to potentially outfit it with a Stygium cloaking device? Or perhaps claim that Traya herself is onboard the vessel, and perhaps she is.

Your scenario is based on several assumptions

1.) G0-T0 would want a warship

A damaged one at that. As you have said, the Exchange has no warships (that we know of). G0-T0 has never needed them. He has never bought them. If he wanted them, he could have them. And in a war against Traya, there's no way G0-T0 will think that one of her "abandoned" ships will destroy the rest of her fleet.

2.) G0-T0 won't suspect anything

If you see an abandoned Sith warship floating in space while you're fighting a war with a Sith who uses the exact same type of ship.... why would you -not- be suspicious? Don't forget that G0-T0 doesn't have to board the ship to scout out the vessel. He can easily send probes and such to search the ship if he truely thinks Traya is on board. He would NEVER go to that ship personally, I don't even... what?

3.) This will even matter

An operation like you are suggesting would take so much time to implement, G0-T0 would be able to enact any number of plans, like those suggested in this thread, in the mean time. He's not going to commit a signifigant number of his forces because this isn't an end-game scenario. If he succeeds, he gets a stealthed ship. Great. But with the time and rescources it takes to get that, he'll be more interested in dealing with Traya as soon as possible.

OK, lets say G0-T0 manages to hack some of Traya's ships, there are still some obstacles that need to be overcome:

In order to hack the ships, G0-T0 will have to get close or on them. So he'll he for Malachor V then get pulled out of hyperspace by the interdiction forces, likely about 2 vessels. If G0-T0 takes over these Traya will be informed telepathically of what happened and will prepared accordingly e.g. shut down all her vessels (roughly 10) and deploy Sith fighters to board the commandeered ships and recapture them. Breath control will give Sith assassins enough time to do this.

We also have to consider that if Traya is forced to Korriban, she will likely place interdiction fleets around that planet as well, disrupting any attempts to invade, although not completely preventing them.

We also have to consider that if Traya is forced to Korriban, she will likely place interdiction fleets around that planet as well, disrupting any attempts to invade, although not completely preventing them.

Interdiction by gravity well works both ways. Traya's forces will not be able to leave while a gravity well is active. Her assassins and/or her other forces will need to come and go, be it from Malachor or Korriban. G0-T0 can wait until the gravity wells are shut down for Traya's forces to move, then slip his invasion force is while they are down. I can assure you that G0-T0 will be scouting out routes before he outright attacks, so his probes could alert him to this lapse in interdiction.

hey are we supposed to base our scenarios on what is within the known possibilities of each force, or can I make stuff up like this guy?

I actually didn't make anything up.

1. G0-T0 has access to plenty of freighters that could theoretically be modified with stealth technology (just like G0-T0's ship)
   
2. HK-50s are part of G0-T0's power base
   
3. HK-50s can arguably coordinate with each other using internal commlinks (which could be encrypted)
   
4. Explosive Charges are easy enough for G0-T0 to acquire, good grief they would be readily available on the black market...
   
5. Cutting tools would be readily available equipment from any starship maintainence facility.
   

I just put together a scenario using the stuff G0-T0 would have access to and put together how he could use them to successfully hijack Traya's ships.

@ Ben

If G0-T0's forces pull off my attack idea successfully, G0-T0 would have arguably taken most if not every capital ship in Traya's fleet (or at least those present in the attack). To say he's taken "some" of her fleet could be a gross understatement.

That's the reason why I proposed the HK units coordinating their attack so they all use explosives on her ships' bridges at the same instant.

@ Ben

If G0-T0's forces pull off my attack idea successfully, G0-T0 would have arguably taken most if not every capital ship in Traya's fleet (or at least those present in the attack). To say he's taken "some" of her fleet could be a gross understatement.

G0-T0 makes preparations to capture Traya's fleet, which he assumes is in orbit above Malachor V. Once ready he dispatches his task force to the planet. However en route they are pulled out of hyperspace by the interdiction forces (2 Interdictor-class cruisers) and their gravity well generators. This provides the HK's with an oppurtunity. Now I'm making the assumption here that G0-T0 can't just intercept ship-to-ship tramissions an attach a virus to it, he at least has to be in direct communication with the vessel and in a position to transmit that kind of data. Capturing these two vessels is an opportunity they won't be able to resist. Because it puts them in a position to capture the entire fleet.*

To cover his bases, the freighters will likely be equipped with jammers to prevent the Interdictors warning the rest of the fleet. However as G0-T0 boards the vessels and activates the virus, what he won't realise is that the Sith on board will be in constant telepathic communication with Traya and will relay what is happening. Allowing the rest of the fleet to prepare.

So, G0-T0 captures himself two Interdictors and plots course for Malachor V, hoping to open channels with the rest of the fleet and transmit the virus. However the fleet will be prepared and have disabled all forms of communication/wireless tramissions on their vessels. Making hacking impossible. They'll then send Sith fighters (of which they'll have roughly 500 of) carrying Sith assassins, to board the vessel and use breath control to survive long enough to kill the HKs on board and recapture the ships. And if that fails, blow them up.

So the maximum amount of ships G0-T0 can capture is 2, and if he falls into Traya's trap he will lose those 2.

*G0-T0 has to strike fast, he simply can't afford to outfit 10+ freighters with stygium cloaking devices because this takes time. Freighters aren't designed to generate that much energy so they'll have to be completely re-modified. Doing this with 10+ freighters could take weeks, he only has time to produce 2 or 3.

But as I explained this wouldn't be the case, allow me to elaborate:

 

G0-T0 makes preparations to capture Traya's fleet, which he assumes is in orbit above Malachor V. Once ready he dispatches his task force to the planet. However en route they are pulled out of hyperspace by the interdiction forces (2 Interdictor-class cruisers) and their gravity well generators. This provides the HK's with an oppurtunity. Now I'm making the assumption here that G0-T0 can't just intercept ship-to-ship tramissions an attach a virus to it, he at least has to be in direct communication with the vessel and in a position to transmit that kind of data. Capturing these two vessels is an opportunity they won't be able to resist. Because it puts them in a position to capture the entire fleet.*

 

To cover his bases, the freighters will likely be equipped with jammers to prevent the Interdictors warning the rest of the fleet. However as G0-T0 boards the vessels and activates the virus, what he won't realise is that the Sith on board will be in constant telepathic communication with Traya and will relay what is happening. Allowing the rest of the fleet to prepare.

 

So, G0-T0 captures himself two Interdictors and plots course for Malachor V, hoping to open channels with the rest of the fleet and transmit the virus. However the fleet will be prepared and have disabled all forms of communication/wireless tramissions on their vessels. Making hacking impossible. They'll then send Sith fighters (of which they'll have roughly 500 of) carrying Sith assassins, to board the vessel and use breath control to survive long enough to kill the HKs on board and recapture the ships. And if that fails, blow them up.

 

So the maximum amount of ships G0-T0 can capture is 2, and if he falls into Traya's trap he will lose those 2.

 

*G0-T0 has to strike fast, he simply can't afford to outfit 10+ freighters with stygium cloaking devices because this takes time. Freighters aren't designed to generate that much energy so they'll have to be completely re-modified. Doing this with 10+ freighters could take weeks, he only has time to produce 2 or 3.

I think he was talking about his plan to destroy(is that correct?) the bridge and take control all at once.

But Beni, you are forgetting one thing- Breath Control is a light sided power. Sith have never been able to use it

EXCEPT Traya. Why? She learned it while a jedi. She wouldn't be able to teach it to her Sith because the dark side wouldn't allow it. And Malachor's energies would make sure of that as well.

Using the Force power, breath control, a Jedi could literally numb the body's instinct to shut itself down after long periods without oxygen, allowing the user to be able to go without breathing for longer periods than he or she ordinarily could by using the Force to reserve the amounts of air in the lungs.

Qui-Gon Jinn[1]

Obi-Wan Kenobi[1]

Luke Skywalker[2]

Jaina Solo[3]

Meetra Surik[4]

~Wookiepedia. So, I assure you, Traya's Sith WILL NOT know breath control.

I think he was talking about his plan to destroy(is that correct?) the bridge and take control all at once.

But Beni, you are forgetting one thing- Breath Control is a light sided power. Sith have never been able to use it

EXCEPT Traya. Why? She learned it while a jedi. She wouldn't be able to teach it to her Sith because the dark side wouldn't allow it. And Malachor's energies would make sure of that as well. We also have the practitioners

~Wookiepedia. So, I assure you, Traya's Sith WILL NOT know breath control.

But for a moment lets assume it is, this is unfortunate for Traya but not too unfortunate. It only means that she has no choice but to destroy the vessels. However she does have a sizable droid force designed to rout boarding parties and may be enough to destroy the HK units aboard. But probably not likely. Another option would be to send some small droids aboard to turn the oxygen back on and then board it. Or breath masks?

My scenario still stands.Curious, I wonder why that is the case... mind you I wouldn't give that article much weight as as far as I'm aware none of the sources it cites state that it is a light side power.

 

But for a moment lets assume it is, this is unfortunate for Traya but not too unfortunate. It only means that she has no choice but to destroy the vessels. However she does have a sizable droid force designed to rout boarding parties and may be enough to destroy the HK units aboard. But probably not likely. Another option would be to send some small droids aboard to turn the oxygen back on and then board it. Or breath masks?

Plausible, but you would need to act very quickly in order to have those breath masks to change the battle. On the matter of breath control, we see no sith users, and it doesn't state force user- it states jedi.

OK, I'm going to start wrapping this debate up now as I think we considered most angles. So here are the best win scenarios for each combatant:

Traya: Strike at the entirety of G0-T0's powerbase with full force, and siphon information from his underling crime lords before dispatching them. This includes:

• Gassing Jekk'Jekk Tarr.
  
• Raiding Exchange bases on Telos IV and Nar Shaddaa.
  
• Sending a fleet to destroy the Nar Shaddaa shipyards and stop production of stealthed freighters.
  
• Full invasion of the HK factory on Telos IV.
  

Now that G0-T0 is desperate and his options are rapidly dwindling, offer him bait that he'll have no choice but to snap up. Capture Bao-Dur, who will be vital to reactivating the MSG* and likely in 'protective custody' on one of G0-T0's exchange bases on Nar Shaddaa. In raiding all these bases Traya will be in the position to capture him, and also possess knowledge of him and his purpose from Loppak Slusk on Telos IV, who would no doubt have been instrumental in capturing him in the first place. So Traya will load him up onto a ship and fly him of planet to a waiting Interdictor. G0-T0 will have no choice but to intercept and recapture Bao-Dur. However this will be his doom as the ship will be filled with stealthed assassins who will kill G0-T0 has soon as they get on board.

*Bao-Dur isn't going to tell G0-T0 how to reactivate the MSG, he'll keep that information to himself for fear the Exchange might kill him once they've got it. The orders will be programmed into his remote, and only be activateable by him.

G0-T0: Manages to activate the MSG on Malachor V and subsequently drive Traya to Korriban. From here he is in a position to destroy her, namely by setting a trap. G0-T0 is a droid that considers all the odds and will likely consider the odds of Traya escaping. Being a knowledgeable sort of guy he'll be aware of Korriban as the former capital of Revan's Sith Empire and a likely destination for Traya's escape. (Although he'll set traps on other planets as well.)

So, he'll plant a baradium bomb in the abandoned Sith Academy well out of sight, and have some listening devices/cameras set up about it, so when Traya arrives he will be alerted, pull the trigger and blow her up.

I'm afraid this argument is fatally flawed because, as you said, the academy is abandoned. At this point it is no longer teaching students, and no longer receiving any kind of maintenance. Not that G0-T0 could do much damage, release some hungry tukata, that's about it. The academy was completely automated, but a thing that ancient doesn't have many automated systems.

Well, if Traya's troops are there, it wouldn't be abandoned....

No, but really. IIRC the terminals were all functioning when the Exile went there, and I'm assuming it is the same academy. It was completely automated, and as such G0-T0 would have a lot of control. And this is the only place Traya can go- she holds no other place in her powerbase there. According to this video (10 minutes) I have found that the computers open almost all the doors, and bypass security. Meaning, just lock them up, and gas them to death. Only Traya would survive. Then send a strike force in to eliminate her.

*Snip*

My plan would actually be more fitting in this regard for Traya, she doesn't do the obvious, she would probably use Ziost instead(A planet G0-T0 most likely hasn't even heard of) or go and populate Freedon Nadd's tomb which would be far harder to attack.

Oh and before I hear 'not in her powerbase' The Sith had been on Dxun for nearly three years scouting out Nadd's tomb and Ziost was always part of the space still being used by Sith Lords that Traya took control of when she first arrived on Malachor V.

Going to Korriban is just to blatantly obvious for Traya's mindset IMO.

Well, if Traya's troops are there, it wouldn't be abandoned....

 

No, but really. IIRC the terminals were all functioning when the Exile went there, and I'm assuming it is the same academy. It was completely automated, and as such G0-T0 would have a lot of control. And this is the only place Traya can go- she holds no other place in her powerbase there. According to this video (10 minutes) I have found that the computers open almost all the doors, and bypass security. Meaning, just lock them up, and gas them to death. Only Traya would survive. Then send a strike force in to eliminate her.

Oh and before I hear 'not in her powerbase' The Sith had been on Dxun for nearly three years scouting out Nadd's tomb and Ziost was always part of the space still being used by Sith Lords that Traya took control of when she first arrived on Malachor V.

P.S. I think G0-T0 would be aware of Ziost, as it is the former capital of Sith Empire and G0-T0 is going to set up traps on as many planets as he can in Sith Space.

I'm guessing this is stated in the KOTOR Campaign Guide as according to Wookieepedia the Sith under Nihilus were allowed to investigate the Tomb in return for helping Vaklu - post-betrayal - so Nihilus could devour the dark energies there.

Like I said, Scouting out, they didn't know the SIth were there until they were approached by them and the only reason the Sith unveiled themselves to Vaklu and his lot was so a distraction could take place that blinded people from the more important issue at hand.(In-fact, I imagine Nihilus probably would've devoured Dxun and Onderon eventually)

P.S. I think G0-T0 would be aware of Ziost, as it is the former capital of Sith Empire and G0-T0 is going to set up traps on as many planets as he can in Sith Space.

Ziost all but vanished off the face of the galaxy until the Sith Empire returned, even Darth Revan didn't establish a powerbase on Ziost, Exar Kun's Empire had established a cult on Ziost that the Republic never even knew of, Revan merely held them as allies, when Traya usurped the power of all the Sith warlords spread throughout the galaxy, it included Ziost itself.

The likelihood that G0-T0 would know of Ziost when the Republic didn't even attack it directly in the Hyperspace War, is extremely unlikely.

Like I said, Scouting out, they didn't know the SIth were there until they were approached by them and the only reason the Sith unveiled themselves to Vaklu and his lot was so a distraction could take place that blinded people from the more important issue at hand.(In-fact, I imagine Nihilus probably would've devoured Dxun and Onderon eventually)

Of course, from my understanding, Nihilus' forces revealed themselves to divide the planet into civil war, which, either way, would split the military in two so Nihilus could easily surround the planet himself.... Then devour them...

Of course, from my understanding, Nihilus' forces revealed themselves to divide the planet into civil war, which, either way, would split the military in two so Nihilus could easily surround the planet himself.... Then devour them...

A smaller piece to a larger plan, blinding an entire sector to his movements, smart Sith tactics indeed.

Now that G0-T0 is desperate and his options are rapidly dwindling, offer him bait that he'll have no choice but to snap up. Capture Bao-Dur, who will be vital to reactivating the MSG* and likely in 'protective custody' on one of G0-T0's exchange bases on Nar Shaddaa. In raiding all these bases Traya will be in the position to capture him, and also possess knowledge of him and his purpose from Loppak Slusk on Telos IV, who would no doubt have been instrumental in capturing him in the first place. So Traya will load him up onto a ship and fly him of planet to a waiting Interdictor. G0-T0 will have no choice but to intercept and recapture Bao-Dur. However this will be his doom as the ship will be filled with stealthed assassins who will kill G0-T0 has soon as they get on board.

 

*Bao-Dur isn't going to tell G0-T0 how to reactivate the MSG, he'll keep that information to himself for fear the Exchange might kill him once they've got it. The orders will be programmed into his remote, and only be activateable by him.

Where did THAT come from?

Why would G0-T0 leave Bao-Dur in a Telos base? If what you say is true* and Bao-Dur will not tell the Exchange anything because he wants to activate it himself, wouldn't G0-T0 move him to the location of his invasion force? And since most of his forces are HK droids, wouldn't it be smart for him to move Bao-Dur to the factory? The HK droids are really good at tracking people down. They'll most likely be the ones to find him and then bring him back to their bunker for safekeeping. Traya won't know about the bunker until the invasion force of droids being assembled there makes their strike on Malachor V.

Why would Loppak Slusk tell Traya that.... G0-T0's the one that put Slusk in a place of power, there's no reason for him to talk to the enemy. And although G0-T0 might tell him to be on the look out for Bao-Dur, that doesn't mean Sluck will actually find him and/or know where he is.

If G0-T0's bases are already being destroyed by Traya, obviously he'll know about the assassins. He'll know they stealth and he'll know they're deadly. He's not about to risk exposing himself to them personally. The HK factory does have a ship the HKs can fly out and intercept, if they really need to. But G0-T0 would never risk his own skin. Even if he would, he has stealth as well. If the re-capturing goes wrong, he could just sneak onto the assassin's ship and make his escape that way.

*Bao-Dur isn't immune to torture.... or threats of, say, destroying all he's worked for on Telos.

*snip*

Are you forgetting how useless the stealth tech that G0-T0 uses is?

Are you forgetting how useless the stealth tech that G0-T0 uses is?

Sith forces in KotOR II fell for technological stealth generators the same as everyone else. And there's no reason for Traya to spontaneously teach everyone how to sense them if she doesn't even know G0-T0 will be using it. Which she won't, until he strikes.