The last battle, The Felonious Empire vs The Dark Imperium, was a victory for the felons. For although the Imperium had the might of a shadow armada, they failed to break their opponents adamantine defence and buckled under their durasteel fist. But onto round three.

 

For all those of you aren’t aware, the Kaggath is an ancient rite of the Sith, ‘one part duel, one part large-scale dejarik-match’. The two combatants have full use of their power bases, be it armies, strongholds or fleets, in order to outwit and outmanoeuvre their opponent. The Kaggath is no simple lightsaber duel, although it can come down to one, and the arena can be anywhere: a planet, star system or the entire galaxy.

 

Before we begin, let’s set out the ground rules of the Heats.

 

 

• The arena: the known galaxy.
  
• Only those incorporated in the listed in the faction compilations below can take part in the Kaggath.
  
• No outside help of any kind, the combatants cannot call upon assets outside their power base or influence.
  
• No outside involvement, other powers will not and cannot interrupt or affect the battle, for the purpose of argument they are non-existent.
  
• No surrender, fight to the death!
  
• Technology level is universal (unless considered archaic or advanced at the time): blaster fire, armouring, lightsabers etc. are all the same regardless of period, all that matters is size, quantity and power.
  
• Factions are autonomous – players have no control over their factions decisions, this is determined by the nature of their leadership.
  

 

So, the combatants: Our exalted Queen of the Kaggath – Warren Stride – has submitted a cold and calculating cabal of the some of the galaxy’s most menacing mechanical beings. While Marcelo has submitted an ancient armada of Sith power. Behold the factions!

 

The Droid Supremacy

 

Leadership

 

Head of State: G0-T0

Second-in-Command: Guri

Allies: PROXY & HK-01

Supplier: The Exchange

 

Military

 

Minor Ground Force: Trade Federation Army & Terror Units

Naval Force: Black Sun Navy

 

Planets

 

Capital: Bothawui

Supply Base: Nar Shaddaa

Stronghold/Military Base: Kamino

Stronghold/Military Base: Geonosis

Shipyards: Mon Calamari

 

vs

 

The Undying Brotherhood

 

Leadership

 

Head of State: Darth Malgus

Second-in-Command: General Grievous

Allies: Durge & Asajj Ventress

Supplier: Commerce Guild

 

Military

 

Minor Ground Force: Sith Warriors (resurgent Sith Empire) & Massassi Warriors

Major Naval Force: Revan’s Sith Navy

 

Planets

 

Capital: Dromund Kaas

Supply Base: Korriban

Stronghold/Military Base: Yavin 4

Stronghold/Military Base: Ziost

Shipyards: Lianna

 

The Droid Supremacy has the devastating efficiency of an all droid empire and the Undying Brotherhood has the equally devastating might of the Sith – but who is greater, who will win? The battle lines have been drawn...

 

In anticipation of a question surrounding the numbers of the Black Sun Navy, I'll leave Warren to make an estimate. However mine would be around 100 to 150. But as always we should take these are very much rough estimates.

So Warren has land combat secured.

Query: The Trade Federation Army is post-Naboo, correct?

So Warren has land combat secured.

I wouldn't quite say that, the Brotherhood's Sith Warriors will put a significant dent in the Trade Federation Army.

Firstly: No. This wasn't my G0-T0 one shot card.. But this just struck me.

 

Why would G0-T0 even want to go to war? His goal was to save the Republic, until he realised it impossible. He decided it was much more efficient to save the Galaxy, as any ruling body would effectively be the Republic...

 

The one reason he went against the Republic was because he didn't think their Laws were enough to ensure stability. Why the hell would he go against Malgus? He wouldn't want to ruin the Galactic Economy by going full out war, and Malgus is easily a leader who would be willing to do anything to have a stable order. That was showin the The False Emperor.

 

I guess what I'm saying is, G0-T0 would rather die than face Malgus.... Is Suicide an option?

 

If not, then Warren's already at a disadvantage, as G0-T0 would want to limit destruction and go for Malgus and Malgus alone.

I wouldn't quite say that, the Brotherhood's Sith Warriors will put a significant dent in the Trade Federation Army.

 

Maybe to the B1s, but Warren has some of the most advanced and most powerful battle droids ever built.

Warren disappoints me at not having IG-88.

Query: The Trade Federation Army is post-Naboo, correct?

We are talking the Trade Federation army that invaded Naboo, which consists of roughly 5,000 battle droids along with Droidekas, AATs etc. as well as a Droid Control Ship.

 

However this is just the initial force, possessing the factories on Geonosis means the Droid Supremacy can produce more. And in addition possess the schematics Super Battle Droids.

 

P.S. The Droid Control Ships are technically a part of the Droid Supremacy's ground units, so they would possess the schematics and the capability to produce more at their shipyards, to provide control over more units.

Firstly: No. This wasn't my G0-T0 one shot card.. But this just struck me.

 

Why would G0-T0 even want to go to war? His goal was to save the Republic, until he realised it impossible. He decided it was much more efficient to save the Galaxy, as any ruling body would effectively be the Republic...

 

The one reason he went against the Republic was because he didn't think their Laws were enough to ensure stability. Why the hell would he go against Malgus? He wouldn't want to ruin the Galactic Economy by going full out war, and Malgus is easily a leader who would be willing to do anything to have a stable order. That was showin the The False Emperor.

 

I guess what I'm saying is, G0-T0 would rather die than face Malgus.... Is Suicide an option?

 

If not, then Warren's already at a disadvantage, as G0-T0 would want to limit destruction and go for Malgus and Malgus alone.

Regardless of personality, all combatants are dedicated to achieving victory. Surrender is not an option.

Maybe to the B1s, but Warren has some of the most advanced and most powerful battle droids ever built.

Perhaps you are referring to a different army... the Trade Federation supplied the bread and butter, they provided quantity over quality, aside from Droidekas nothing particularly flashy.

We are talking the Trade Federation army that invaded Naboo, which consists of roughly 5,000 battle droids along with Droidekas, AATs etc. as well as a Droid Control Ship.

 

However this is just the initial force, possessing the factories on Geonosis means the Droid Supremacy can produce more. And in addition possess the schematics Super Battle Droids.

 

P.S. The Droid Control Ships are technically a part of the Droid Supremacy's ground units, so they would possess the schematics and the capability to produce more at their shipyards, to provide control over more units.

 

Oh, really? Then I retract my previous comment.

Perhaps you are referring to a different army... the Trade Federation supplied the bread and butter, they provided quantity over quality, aside from Droidekas nothing particularly flashy.

 

I would retort, but your previous comment makes it moot.

I would retort, but your previous comment makes it moot.

Even if it was post-Naboo, it would remain the case. Remembering that the Droid Supremacy has access to all their products regardless, they just don't have them instantly available.

Even if it was post-Naboo, it would remain the case. Remembering that the Droid Supremacy has access to all their products regardless, they just don't have them instantly available.

 

I would have retorted because I thought the TF was the supplier, but I was mistaken.

 

I guess I dropped the ball there. Whoopsie!

 

Edit: So yeah, I retract my previous argument.

 

Edit #2: In light of the recent forum debacle: it appears I have a perception problem. Did I use that right?

Edited August 30, 2013 by Aurbere

Regardless of personality, all combatants are dedicated to achieving victory. Surrender is not an option.

 

Regardless, G0-T0 will not harm anything he doesn't have to, he'd want to take control of Ship Yards not destroy them, he would not want to Base-Delta-Zero planets.... His tactical mind was always severely limited in this aspect.

 

I can imagine G0-T0 having to sneakily attack Lianna, not invade with the Droids, and he would not want to destroy the ship yards, merely take them over, simply because they're too crucial to the Galaxy.

 

Poor bloke could lose due to his undying love of the Entire Universe

Edit #2: In light of the recent forum debacle: it appears I have a perception problem. Did I use that right?

 

Yep, but don't worry. Just roll a sorc, you can heal that Perception problem right up.

Yep, but don't worry. Just roll a sorc, you can heal that Perception problem right up.

 

Lol. Will do.

So...Warrens entire ground force(majority) is just a bunch of B1s? Edited August 30, 2013 by Wolfninjajedi

So...Warrens entire ground force(majority) is just a bunch of B1s?

 

I think so. Which is why I retracted my earlier statement.

Regardless, G0-T0 will not harm anything he doesn't have to, he'd want to take control of Ship Yards not destroy them, he would not want to Base-Delta-Zero planets.... His tactical mind was always severely limited in this aspect.

 

I can imagine G0-T0 having to sneakily attack Lianna, not invade with the Droids, and he would not want to destroy the ship yards, merely take them over, simply because they're too crucial to the Galaxy.

 

Poor bloke could lose due to his undying love of the Entire Universe

G0-T0 however will go to whatever means necessary to ensure his survival, which I'm sure he'll see as essentially to future galactic stability.

Regardless, G0-T0 will not harm anything he doesn't have to, he'd want to take control of Ship Yards not destroy them, he would not want to Base-Delta-Zero planets.... His tactical mind was always severely limited in this aspect.

 

Technically this would be Malgus' tactical approach, but not Grievous'.

So...Warrens entire ground force(majority) is just a bunch of B1s?

Don't forget the Terror Units of which there are likely a few hundred or so.

 

And also don't forget that using the factories on Geonosis the Droid Supremacy can build more B1 units as well as B2, Droidekas and other more specialised versions of the B1 and 2s. I'd estimate that with the full power of the Genonosian factories and the wealth of the Exchange the Droid Supremacy can double that number within a day. The destruction of those factories is vital to the Undying Brotherhoods success, without it they'll be numerically overwhelmed within a week.

Really, I think this battle will be a Force vs Droids encounter. Now since the droids are being reproduced, and the sith aren't, except the UB can do something bold and unexpected, like attacking all the members of the DS leadership straight away, or capturing the factory, they'll be ridiculously outnumbered within a month. But, I'm not fully aware of the Sith "Warriors" abilities. If this situation is similar to the Clone Wars, a few good swift strikes to the DS, and they could win. Right now, I don't understand the numbers of the UB army. I believe I'll be able to make a reasonable arguament after that.

Edit: Wait nvrm, got it. Edited August 30, 2013 by Wolfninjajedi