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Holding pieces on an alt to refund later...?

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Holding pieces on an alt to refund later...?

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AndriusAjax
11.12.2019 , 10:20 AM | #1
I'm kind of sharing a strategy here, but also probing for any potential problems that I may have doing this...

When I have spare Tech Frags I like to spend them on the Kai vendor for his discounted random pieces. I already have my DPS set and tacticals finished up, and I'm really not aiming for anything on my main toon anymore. I was about to start buying pieces for alts, but wasnt quite sure what to get...

So instead, I decided to buy his discounted inventory when I had extra TFs. But when his shop is down, I don't really know what to do with my spare frags... So yesterday I jumped on a toon that I hardly ever play, and started buying random 3k pieces from the static vendors when I would get close to 5,000 TFs.

I have about 4 random tacticals in his inventory. My plan is, when I finally figure out what sets or tacs I want to buy, or if they ultimately start releasing new tacs and set bonus pieces, this could become a system I employ to make sure I can buy the new sets as soon as they launch. So yeah, let's say I figure out that I want to get a certain set on my sage, or let's say that Kai opens up his inventory and has an interesting piece, I could pop over to this "holding" toon and start slowly refunding those items and buying the pieces that I do want - as the refund timers stay pretty healthy if you don't play that particular toon.

Is there a flaw here? I'm worried that one day I'll log in and all those refund timers will be gone, and I'll have a bunch of pieces I don't really want...

I know I could juggle this stuff on one of my primary toons and just keep the refund timers healthy via buying and refunding new ones, but that seems ripe for forgetting and getting stuck with certain pieces. I figure doing it on a rarely played character will keep the refund timers as low as possible and manageable if I ever do need to reset one.
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septru
11.12.2019 , 10:57 AM | #2
I have not tried what you described for this patch (it is interesting). However, there was a similar process in 2.0 where players would use a similar process in order to buy a full set of expertise ranked gear when they got to max level. I assume the dangers are the same. You must actually refund each item before the timer expires or else you will be stuck with all the pieces. Additionally, although I am not certain, I think the timer is legacy wide, not character wide.
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AndriusAjax
11.12.2019 , 11:15 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by septru View Post
Additionally, although I am not certain, I think the timer is legacy wide, not character wide.
I just checked out my holding character, and the timers are still looking good. And I played other characters for several hours after I bought the pieces.

But yeah, if you mean the timer would count had I transferred the pieces to another toon, I agree. But it seems like if you keep it in the characters personal inventory, the timer stays tied to that character's game time. It would be interesting to see what happens if you decided to put them in your legacy storage... I suspect it would count down in that case.

[edit: yea, it wont transfer into legacy storage while the refund timer is active - says "item is bound" when you try. Looks like this is a good way to go - buy spare pieces on a rarely used lvl-75 and, when needed, refund and re-buy to reset the timer, or refund and buy a piece that you've determined that you want]
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Lhancelot
11.12.2019 , 11:50 AM | #4
Yes, we used to do this system with WZ comms. We would buy PVP vendor weapons that were 900 WZ comms iirc, then we would just save them in our inventories then resell before the timer ran out.

This enabled us to PVP from 10-65, get to cap level and then buy nearly a full suit of BiS PVP gears which back then took TONS of WZ comms. The only danger was forgetting weapons needed refreshed on the vendor!

lol I forgot once, lost about 30-35 weapons. I know nearly every PVPer back then did this, and most forgot at one point or another to refresh the timers.
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mjboehm
11.12.2019 , 02:29 PM | #5
I would do this too but I think the only time I lost more than 10 was when they released 4.0, I think. They said in the patch they would remove all timers so players could not be bliss the first day. Pissed off a few guild mates of mine and they quit because of it. But if you do it right, that should be the only way you could be screwed.

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TrixxieTriss
11.12.2019 , 03:22 PM | #6
Started doing this about a week ago and have run into no problems so far.

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septru
11.12.2019 , 04:36 PM | #7
Wow. This is even better than 2.0 because the tokens in this case are legacy bound. Which means I can make a level 1 char to hold all my gear and maybe never need to refund.

Wow. Didn't think of this. Good tip.
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mjboehm
11.12.2019 , 04:39 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by septru View Post
Wow. This is even better than 2.0 because the tokens in this case are legacy bound. Which means I can make a level 1 char to hold all my gear and maybe never need to refund.

Wow. Didn't think of this. Good tip.
I don't think you can transfer pieces that have a timer.

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septru
11.12.2019 , 04:46 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by mjboehm View Post
I don't think you can transfer pieces that have a timer.
You can't, but you don't need to. The fragments are legacy bound and any character (regardless of level) can go up to the vendor and by the pieces.
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TrixxieTriss
11.12.2019 , 05:01 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by mjboehm View Post
I don't think you can transfer pieces that have a timer.
You can’t and you also can’t buy set pieces for a class that’s different.