MichellMich Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) I refuse to believe Valis is beatable at level 24. I have reasonable gear, and know my damage rotation. This is not the first time I've encountered a quest that was much harder than it claimed to be. What is Bioware thinking with this? His AOE and Direct Shock damage does entirely too much damage. If someone has beat him at level 24, please tell me what you've done. 24 Guadian Edited December 17, 2011 by MichellMich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabredance Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Doesn´t help, i know -but i had no issue killing him with my Guardian and Kira as Companion. Be sure her saber ward is ready. Let her jump in first with saber ward -wait a moment so it gives you some time for damage till you get the aggro. If she gets too low on health taunt him. Pop saber ward. Pop Call on the Force. Pop Saber Ward again. Take a medpack. Force stasis and Force kick to interrupt his supermoves. Use Warding Call if specced Defense. Almost all endbosses are a piece of cake like that. And later you have even more interrupts. No need to dump difficulty down. Edited December 17, 2011 by Sabredance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichellMich Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 Doesn´t help, i know -but i had no issue killing him with my Guardian and Kira as Companion. Be sure her saber ward is ready. Let her jump in first with saber ward -wait a moment so it gives you some time for damage till you get the aggro. If she gets too low on health taunt him. Pop saber ward. Pop Call on the Force. Pop Saber Ward again. Take a medpack. Force stasis and Force kick to interrupt his supermoves. Use Warding Call if specced Defense. Almost all endbosses are a piece of cake like that. And later you have even more interrupts. No need to dump difficulty down. Thanks for the trips, I'm gonna give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabredance Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If it still doesn´t work it might be a gear issue. I had the Level 20 PvP set at that point+earpiece+both Implants on me and Kira and the level 24 PvP weapons. You can also buy Relics at the light site vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odosept Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Doesn´t help, i know -but i had no issue killing him with my Guardian and Kira as Companion. Be sure her saber ward is ready. Let her jump in first with saber ward -wait a moment so it gives you some time for damage till you get the aggro. If she gets too low on health taunt him. Pop saber ward. Pop Call on the Force. Pop Saber Ward again. Take a medpack. Force stasis and Force kick to interrupt his supermoves. Use Warding Call if specced Defense. Almost all endbosses are a piece of cake like that. And later you have even more interrupts. No need to dump difficulty down. Dude, you are awesome, I used those tips and beat him. I had tried at least a dozen times before. The most important trick is using force kick and stasis. I used stasis on him and it worked 100%, he stayed still and didn't move for like 5 whole seconds, gave me plenty of time to do a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabredance Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Dude, you are awesome, I used those tips and beat him. I had tried at least a dozen times before. The most important trick is using force kick and stasis. I used stasis on him and it worked 100%, he stayed still and didn't move for like 5 whole seconds, gave me plenty of time to do a lot of damage. Glad it helped to beat him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varaben Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I beat him at 24 what are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyboysjl Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Also, make sure to put your back to a crate/wall so he can't knock you back. There is one to his right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elithrar Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Everyone forgets interrupts. PS: You'll need them on later planets. Stuff gets a lot harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khinzaw Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 what about with a sentinel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincire Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Everyone forgets interrupts. PS: You'll need them on later planets. Stuff gets a lot harder. True. I went from hating this fight to realizing that Bioware wants us to use all of our abilities. I this is great since it makes each encounter have a different expectation. I hope they can do more with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigUnit Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Had no issues at beating him at level 24. OP needs to start using all of his abilities and learn to interrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravzar Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I have reasonable gear, and know my damage rotation. One problem may be the fact that you have a preset damage rotation rather than make the best rotation for the situation. The damage rotation on one boss is not always the same as a damage rotation on the others. I don't like the idea of damage rotations since I think it is far better to choose abilities that make sense in the moment. I play a Sentinel not a Guardian but with a Sentinel you don't know when a riposte proc is coming and it is a good ability to use when you can but it costs 3 focus. If you have a damage rotation preset you can't use riposte and continue with that rotation. You need to think on the fly about what you're going to do with that focus if a riposte proc comes. You need to have a plan for each and every focus. Not some damage rotation you use all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrivero Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Use force leap to interrupt his blast one, and kick to interrupt his lightning.. it works. just beat him at 22, was a very close call but got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_DarKStaR_x Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 stim pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reofjsof Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I had a really tough time, but then I get a new lightsaber (was using the commendation one from coruscant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithari Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I took Valis on at 26, and even then he was rather hard to kill. Even with interrupts. I'm a dps specced Guardian and used the rotation mentioned here =) But still I found myself dying at least twice. But when he was dead, I think I had a heart-rate of over 600.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoka Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) best thing to do is not suck... and honestly if you do not skip quests and do the bonuses you will be slightly over level and have plenty of gear. nearly all of these people are doing their class quests UNDER leveled. If you did everything on Taris and Nar Shaddar you should be closer to 27-28 not 24, that means you skipped stuff. Sorry but not being able to "****** charge" everything does not mean its over tuned it means it has a "challenge" to it. Sorry but if you never die then the game is not hard enough. This is not wow, if you want to kill everything while drunk and stupid then go back to WoW. Edited December 19, 2011 by Hizoka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echuu Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) dps rota...WHAT? Im a sentinel, beat him while I was one level below him and concentrated only on using 2 defense buffs, choke like thingy and the 90% enemy damage lower skill on the right time from the begining keeping him unable to deal serious damage for as long as I could all based on their lenght, enemy current target and reload times Edited December 19, 2011 by Echuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjon Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 beat him as a Sentinel without too much trouble, used a medpac just to be safe, interupt is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinsaru Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I really wish I rolled a Sentinel. Guardian is no fun right now. Every boss takes multiple attempts. I already gave up on Lord Praven as a Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoka Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I really wish I rolled a Sentinel. Guardian is no fun right now. Every boss takes multiple attempts. I already gave up on Lord Praven as a Tank. sentinels are harder to play, if you cannot do it on the guardain you sure cannot do it on a sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanko Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 sentinels are harder to play, if you cannot do it on the guardain you sure cannot do it on a sent Is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaCrow Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I really wish I rolled a Sentinel. Guardian is no fun right now. Every boss takes multiple attempts. I already gave up on Lord Praven as a Tank. I havn't played a Guardian before, but I can tell you, from what ive seen of their abilities, that sentinels have about 10000 more things to deal with in regard to fights. As a sent, your not as bullet proof as a gaurdian, which means, if you don't use EVERY ability at your disposal the moment you need to, it could cost you a fight. Imo, if you have problems with the lower level bosses (22-28) have fun with the bosses after Chapter 1, because they make those other bosses look like a bunch of *****es. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanealpha Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I tore him up at 23. Kira was fine, I was at about 40% health when he went down. I didn't even use a pot. Are you using your defensive cooldown skills? I also artifice, so I have top damage hilts/crystals etc going for my lightsabers. Hrmm...maybe I got lucky with some crits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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