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Kaggath Tournament - Felonious Empire vs Dark Imperium

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Kaggath Tournament - Felonious Empire vs Dark Imperium

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Beniboybling
08.10.2013 , 06:39 AM | #111
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  • No outside help of any kind, the combatants cannot call upon assets outside their power base or influence.
  • No outside involvement, other powers will not and cannot interrupt or affect the battle, for the purpose of argument they are non-existent.

Crystal Grav Field Trap? No idea how Aruk would get one. He has no connections that had them, Vader doesn't either, because as far as I'm aware only the Imperial Remnant had one, (Which if anything means Cronal should get it )

If you can find me any case where Aruk or IGBC had one, then go for it, but I'm not aware of any cases, probably just lack of knowledge but i'd like to know none the less....
The crystal field gravtrap is a rare and expensive piece of technology, not an asset specifically related to anyone faction It is the sort of technology that can be acquired on the black market or through a more legal process. Aruk the Great and the IGBC provide access to these avenues, which are within their spheres of influence.

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Selenial
08.10.2013 , 06:50 AM | #112
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The crystal field gravtrap is a rare and expensive piece of technology, not an asset specifically related to anyone faction It is the sort of technology that can be acquired on the black market or through a more legal process. Aruk the Great and the IGBC provide access to these avenues, which are within their spheres of influence.
Yes it's rare piece, but there aren't more than 1-2 floating around at a time... They're incredible valuable, and always taken up by some large Empire, or large Military body or government. Hell, if the New Republic can't even get their hands on one without taking it from the Remnant, just how easy are they to find, even on the black market?

Besides, acquiring it would take time, and there is the possibility that Cronal/Traya/Trench could find it before the FE do, realizing it's a weapon that could seal their doom, and either steal it or buy it... (not sure how much they are, it might just have to be steal )
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Beniboybling
08.10.2013 , 06:53 AM | #113
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Yes it's rare piece, but there aren't more than 1-2 floating around at a time... They're incredible valuable, and always taken up by some large Empire, or large Military body or government. Hell, if the New Republic can't even get their hands on one without taking it from the Remnant, just how easy are they to find, even on the black market?

Besides, acquiring it would take time, and there is the possibility that Cronal/Traya/Trench could find it before the FE do, realizing it's a weapon that could seal their doom, and either steal it or buy it... (not sure how much they are, it might just have to be steal )
The New Republic does not have access to the black market, or the connections of the IGBC. But yes it would take time. I doubt however that the DE has the connections to intercept such a purchase.

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Selenial
08.10.2013 , 07:15 AM | #114
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The New Republic does not have access to the black market, or the connections of the IGBC. But yes it would take time. I doubt however that the DE has the connections to intercept such a purchase.
Awww Is Traya not counting as "Connections"?

I know this is going to stir the pot a little here, but, Traya's skill in shatterpoint... She'd look at her own Military, and realize that this Machine is her forces own shatterpoint.
Now, She also has an incredible gift of sight, able to forsee many things, is it so far stretched to say if she was constantly scouring the Galaxy, that she would not eventually find the owner of said machine?

Also, with Santhe/Sienar at their backs, they could theoretically afford it.
Then, she sets up an ambush, kills the guy(s) and takes it.

Of course, the question is: Would Traya or the IGBC/Aruk find it first, and would they find out about her stealth fleet when it was already too late? Could The Open Circle Fleet and the Santhe/Sienar Technology ships last long enough to hold the stealth fleet in reserve, leaving it as a surprise, so Traya can annihilate their only weakness before they're even revealed?
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Beniboybling
08.10.2013 , 07:18 AM | #115
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Awww Is Traya not counting as "Connections"?

I know this is going to stir the pot a little here, but, Traya's skill in shatterpoint... She'd look at her own Military, and realize that this Machine is her forces own shatterpoint.
Now, She also has an incredible gift of sight, able to forsee many things, is it so far stretched to say if she was constantly scouring the Galaxy, that she would not eventually find the owner of said machine?

Also, with Santhe/Sienar at their backs, they could theoretically afford it.
Then, she sets up an ambush, kills the guy(s) and takes it.

Of course, the question is: Would Traya or the IGBC/Aruk find it first, and would they find out about her stealth fleet when it was already too late? Could The Open Circle Fleet and the Santhe/Sienar Technology ships last long enough to hold the stealth fleet in reserve, leaving it as a surprise, so Traya can annihilate their only weakness before they're even revealed?
Unlikely, she might discover its existence. But her stills did not extend to any form of psychometry. I don't believe she's capable of tracing those related to the object.

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Selenial
08.10.2013 , 07:28 AM | #116
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Unlikely, she might discover its existence. But her stills did not extend to any form of psychometry. I don't believe she's capable of tracing those related to the object.
You could be right, I really wasn't sure. I mean, she could of course Save the stealth fleet for when it matters... I know she can't trace those Related to the object, but are you sure she can't follow the trail like anyone else perusing the black market would?
Could she not Discover someone who knew of its location, then send HK/Cronal/Assassins to said location to get it for her, or destroy it?
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Canino
08.10.2013 , 07:35 AM | #117
Query: Do I theoretically own Santhe/Sienar Technologies? The IGBC was the bank for all major companies. It had so much money Palpatine made sure it was the only company to remain from the CIS, as if it was closed, the galaxy would face a depression like no other.

San/Sienar Tech would most likely have used the IGBC as its way to store money. I know, speculation, but highly likely. They were part of the same organization, so they would know each other. They also would likely do business with each other. The IGBC likely controls all the profits the Santhe/Sienar Tech makes/has made. Simply close there account, and the company goes bankrupt, unable to support itself as a company.

I'm guessing this isn't allowed in the Kaggath, but it does make sense. I implore you to think it over. It is something that my faction could feasibly do, and it is in my sphere of influence.
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Selenial
08.10.2013 , 07:40 AM | #118
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Query: Do I theoretically own Santhe/Sienar Technologies? The IGBC was the bank for all major companies. It had so much money Palpatine made sure it was the only company to remain from the CIS, as if it was closed, the galaxy would face a depression like no other.

San/Sienar Tech would most likely have used the IGBC as its way to store money. I know, speculation, but highly likely. They were part of the same organization, so they would know each other. They also would likely do business with each other. The IGBC likely controls all the profits the Santhe/Sienar Tech makes/has made. Simply close there account, and the company goes bankrupt, unable to support itself as a company.

I'm guessing this isn't allowed in the Kaggath, but it does make sense. I implore you to think it over. It is something that my faction could feasibly do, and it is in my sphere of influence.
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Oh god, please no.

I doubt that would happen anyway, before they went to war, or even got close Santhe/Sienar would withdraw everything...
Besides, that would be terrible business for the IGBC, they're a business, they'd know by doing that they could destroy themselves, if Traya was to win she would liquidate their assets...
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Selenial
08.10.2013 , 07:43 AM | #119
Question, Do i get Malgus' space station too? It was part of the fleet, and it would be nice to have it orbiting Raxus Secundus/Prime
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08.10.2013 , 07:45 AM | #120
Another Question. Raxus Secundus was the seat of the Seperatists Parliament... The "Capital World" so to speak, are we going to assume they have Planetary shields etc or are we going to say Not? I dont know if any information exists on it, It makes sense, but I'm preparing for a possible battle Scenario and would like it clarified now, if possible.
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