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So the REAL leading character of SW is Palpatine?

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So the REAL leading character of SW is Palpatine?

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Slowpokeking
01.01.2020 , 10:14 PM | #1
I mean he's through 1-9, everything has been his plan to rule or mess up with the galaxy. Even Rogue One was about his lackey's doing.
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Pirana
01.01.2020 , 10:19 PM | #2
Hard to argue with that. Sure seems that way.
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cunctatorg
01.02.2020 , 07:36 AM | #3
He is not exactly the leading character.
Certainly he is the main antagonist, being -by far- the most dangerous incarnation of (the) evil, namely the strongest wielder of the Dark Side of the Force (who incorporates the Dark Powers of Darth Sidious and Darth Plagueis, essentially "all the Sith") during that era.

This kind of antagonist is absolutely necessary in any ambitious ("George Star Wars Lucas") Mythology about evil and good, about the inner forces of destruction and non-existence and the inner forces of creation, life and love.
Hence he is one necessary part of the leading plot, the one side of the coin, namely this SW coin...
Of course, this very antagonist is a great antagonist indeed!!

P.S.: as an example, there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om6HcUUa8DI the main antagonist is the inherent, multiple weakness of every human being and the statistical fate of the human race, thus "the great and wise Spirit" and its followers. The "auxiliary" character of one of its followers, given so brilliantly, so unbelievably well by John Gielgud is absolutely necessary: only through his speech the "Great Tempting Spirit" is able to make its point...
The necessity of that antagonist is indisputable in any Mythology of that kind but, admirably, not in "Homer's world".

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cunctatorg
01.02.2020 , 10:00 AM | #4
There is an obvious and simple equation here:
the stronger, more full of surprises, more threatening and more convincing the antagonist,
more of suspense, thrilling, awe, inspiration, satisfaction and fun and
more the greatness, the influence and the glory of the protagonist and
the whole movie.


That doesn't make the antagonist the leading character: both of them are the two sides of the same coin, the movie.




P.S.: well, it's pretty obvious that this very movie has inspired me a lot!! I have written more than ten posts in, nearly, one week, "Dostoevsky and co". aside!!

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Pirana
01.02.2020 , 10:43 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by cunctatorg View Post
There is an obvious and simple equation here:
the stronger, more full of surprises, more threatening and more convincing the antagonist,
more of suspense, thrilling, awe, inspiration, satisfaction and fun and
more the greatness, the influence and the glory of the protagonist and
the whole movie.


That doesn't make the antagonist the leading character: both of them are the two sides of the same coin, the movie.




P.S.: well, it's pretty obvious that this very movie inspired me a lot!! I have written more than ten posts in, nearly, one week, "Dostoevsky and co". aside!!
I'm pretty sure the original post was sarcasm. This is where that little emoji comes into play.
Hard to decipher one's thoughts through words without those little things.
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BardMedicine
01.02.2020 , 04:19 PM | #6
Not the lead, but he is common foe of the leads.

He doesn't even appear in 3 of 9 or 10 of the movies and is only a core character in 5 out of 9/10 movies.

The lead is the person who the story is most centered on, that is clearly Anakin Skywalker, even if he is dead before the last three, if we have to pick one character.

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cunctatorg
01.04.2020 , 11:04 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by BardMedicine View Post
Not the lead, but he is common foe of the leads.

He doesn't even appear in 3 of 9 or 10 of the movies and is only a core character in 5 out of 9/10 movies.

The lead is the person who the story is most centered on, that is clearly Anakin Skywalker, even if he is dead before the last three, if we have to pick one character.
He doesn't appear in Episodes IV of 1977, VII of 2015 and VIII of 2017; however he is mentioned twice in Episode IV, regarding his devastating influence on Galactic politics and the past conversion of Obi-Wan Kenobi's "padawan" to the Dark Side, that "padawan" who has become Darth Vader and had destroyed the whole Jedi Order...

He is essentially one core character in Episode I of course, Episode II and -somehow- in Episode V: his first presence is extremely short but extremely influential also (Darth Vader bows before his hologram etc.) but
his presence becomes really heavy only in Episodes III (his triumph), VI (his first fall and destruction) and IX:
namely all three Episodes that conclude all Trilogies!!
Some antagonist!!...


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