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Did Rise of Skywalker include an outright SWTOR reference? (SPOILERS ahead)

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Did Rise of Skywalker include an outright SWTOR reference? (SPOILERS ahead)

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Sith-Viscera
12.27.2019 , 12:46 PM | #11
I saw the film last night and i thought they stole things from Knights of the Fallen Empire & Eternal Throne expansions, like the Eternal fleet they had that huge Imperial Fleet and a few more things. but yeah, they did, here and there.
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Pietrastor
12.27.2019 , 02:05 PM | #12
It's JJ Abrams so it's quite likely lots of stuff was literally taken from KOTFEET. I mean, obviously Mass Effect was heavily inspired by Star Trek among other sources, but the 2009 Star Trek reboot directed by JJ took a ton from Mass Effect in turn. It was obvious and JJ is a self-proclaimed gamer but since video games ain't much respected in Hollywood (and among general public and press) no would ever question him if an influence came from a video game.
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RodneyMcNeely
12.27.2019 , 02:51 PM | #13
Yep!

I missed the Vitiate reference, but it was OBVIOUS that a lot of the visual direction came from these games, as well as the old "Tales of the Jedi" comic book series.

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phalczen
01.05.2020 , 08:12 PM | #14
So, I just saw the movie yesterday for the first time.

I don't recall a Vitiate reference, but I could have missed it.

I had seen this topic at the top of this sub-forum days ago, but didn't read it until just now. Because I had a hint there might be a SWTOR reference, in every scene on Exegol with statues of ancient Sith, I was intently studying them for a statue of Darth Revan. I didn't see one.

I do think I saw a shot of a ship that looked like our in-game Jedi Consular/Knight Corvette during the final battle over Exegol.

As far as Abrams being a gamer, or paying respect to the EU, I call BS actually. First of all, he could have called the darn things Sith Holocrons instead of Sith Wayfinders and they would have had the same effect and be consistent with canon. Secondly, and most importantly, why would he not use the name Moriband or Korriban!?!? Yoda visits the Sith Homeworld in the Clone Wars season 6, and is tested by several Sith spirits, so why did they suddenly move to Exegol? I was willing to excuse the Ach-To thing from Force Awakens, since Tython is never specifically named in canon. But once Clone Wars established Moriband/Korriban as the Sith Homeworld, it should have been consistent.

It was reported by Charlie from Emergency Awesome that the Lucasfilm Story Group was NOT involved in the writing or production of this film, and this is an example. At least he could have talked to Dave Filoni

Including a Dejarik game in progress as a "homage to fans" does not excuse this oversight. I'd rather they never mention Dejarik again instead of create a whole new planet retconning everything about sith or jedi lore for a SECOND time in the trilogy.
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kirorx
01.29.2020 , 09:37 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
So, I just saw the movie yesterday for the first time.

I don't recall a Vitiate reference, but I could have missed it.

I had seen this topic at the top of this sub-forum days ago, but didn't read it until just now. Because I had a hint there might be a SWTOR reference, in every scene on Exegol with statues of ancient Sith, I was intently studying them for a statue of Darth Revan. I didn't see one.

I do think I saw a shot of a ship that looked like our in-game Jedi Consular/Knight Corvette during the final battle over Exegol.

As far as Abrams being a gamer, or paying respect to the EU, I call BS actually. First of all, he could have called the darn things Sith Holocrons instead of Sith Wayfinders and they would have had the same effect and be consistent with canon. Secondly, and most importantly, why would he not use the name Moriband or Korriban!?!? Yoda visits the Sith Homeworld in the Clone Wars season 6, and is tested by several Sith spirits, so why did they suddenly move to Exegol? I was willing to excuse the Ach-To thing from Force Awakens, since Tython is never specifically named in canon. But once Clone Wars established Moriband/Korriban as the Sith Homeworld, it should have been consistent.

It was reported by Charlie from Emergency Awesome that the Lucasfilm Story Group was NOT involved in the writing or production of this film, and this is an example. At least he could have talked to Dave Filoni

Including a Dejarik game in progress as a "homage to fans" does not excuse this oversight. I'd rather they never mention Dejarik again instead of create a whole new planet retconning everything about sith or jedi lore for a SECOND time in the trilogy.
Those things drive me crazy, they are just such an easy way to appease fans. I thought the same thing when they went to a casino planet. I mean, really. They couldnt have just went to Nar Shadda, instead of that other casino harry potter planet. This is the same for Ach-to, just call it thython and move on.

Hollywood acts like pleasing starwars fans is this complex issue, but its pretty simple. Just spoon feed us stuff from the games and EU we grew up on.

At least the mandalorian seems to understand what we want to see.