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Unlocking flagship rooms


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Stellarcrusade
12.12.2018 , 09:47 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by InfamousDolphin View Post
I have found the answer to my question: the cost to unlock rooms appears top be the same. So whoopee, the cost to unlock a flagship was reduced by 2.8%. Yay.
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Xina_LA
12.12.2018 , 11:06 AM | #12
There really needs to be a viable way for small guilds to slowly but surely unlock the flagship, without buying things off the GTN. Leveling the guild isn't a rewarding activity unless you can slot bonuses, and you need unlocked flagship rooms to do that.
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TheCardinal
07.18.2019 , 02:44 AM | #13
Yes NECRO.

I felt it's time to bring this back to life again. with a twist.

I believe it's time to remove the framework need to unlock the rooms on the "Guild" Flag ships.

I know ppl already have said they are for guilds but we all know not all guild are that big or have the means to kill the commanders to get them.
Before you ask, I know that conquest is simpler now and you can do it that way but you who say that is also aware that it takes 250 blue ones to unlock one room.

Back in the day all those years ago when I bought a ship, they did cost 50 mill and that was a lot of money back then.
My main hope was one day open up one single room alas to this day that haven't happened yet.

I know and no need to repeat it, it's for guilds and not private use.

Beside the point at this stage really, all those frameworks does is prevent ppl to unlock for no reason what so ever.
it does not hurt the game, your play style or anything what so ever to have them with a pure credit cost.

It's gotten so bad on DM at least that a Engineering framework is trying to be sold on general chat for 25 mill and that's for ONE, that means that one of those rooms alone would set you back 130 mill, while you can get the ship for 8 mill today.

Not to look at command framework, last time I looked on GTN it was around 80 mill, EACH
So 245 mill to open ONE room, there is NO logic behind that what so ever.

Then we have a player that trying to get groups on the fleet under the pretext that the "group" get an item worth 1 mill on GTN, IE blue one.
What he fail to tell them is that he will use Master loot in the end and take the purple one for him self and he's guild.

We have guilds that warn there members about this and I've heard that they even camp the Rep side bases to make sure no one else can get them when they try to have groups made.

So I would suggest, that with 6.0, remove Blue and Purple from the needs to unlock the rooms.

The ship today cost 8 mill to buy, to fully unlock it would still cost 75 mill and that is money leaving the game.
IE money sink and this game really needs one now.

Then we can unlock rooms, buy deco, and with that BW might make CC sales on some, money goes out of the game.

People don't get abused.

You still need to gain levels to get the perks from the ships, so to alter the way we unlock them to me is a good thing.

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Xina_LA
07.18.2019 , 01:06 PM | #14
Don't care if it's necro, it's still a good point.

The problem is that there is no way for small guilds to earn room unlocks.

I'm not asking for a freebie or a discount. I'm just asking that there be a path to encryption rewards that doesn't reset before a small guild can reach the goal.

Oh, and one billion credits is not a reasonable credit sink.
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Hudlar
07.18.2019 , 03:06 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Xina_LA View Post
Don't care if it's necro, it's still a good point.

The problem is that there is no way for small guilds to earn room unlocks.

I'm not asking for a freebie or a discount. I'm just asking that there be a path to encryption rewards that doesn't reset before a small guild can reach the goal.

Oh, and one billion credits is not a reasonable credit sink.
Yes, it would be really nice if they would reduce the number of frameworks required to unlock rooms. Even small guilds should be able to reach the small planet conquest goal now, which is great. Still, at one encryption per character per week, unlocking even one room will take a very long time for a small guild.

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TrixxieTriss
07.18.2019 , 04:46 PM | #16
Iím not going to lie. I would love a reduction in cost because Iíve a small family guild and opening rooms is neigh on impossible,
I do understand that it is mainly for larger active guilds, so Iím not going to get upset if they donít do.
But you have my support if you want too

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ceryxp
07.18.2019 , 04:55 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
Iím not going to lie. I would love a reduction in cost because Iíve a small family guild and opening rooms is neigh on impossible,
I do understand that it is mainly for larger active guilds, so Iím not going to get upset if they donít do.
But you have my support if you want too
Same. It takes me 5.5 weeks to get one framework. I'm not going to complain if they make that easier, but if they don't then I'll just keep plugging along. Won't be too long before I can open a room. Only, like, 4.5 months.
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lightSaberAddiCt
07.18.2019 , 06:00 PM | #18
I am sorry but isn't this the same argument as:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=965535

They can't make guild ship unlocks so cheap that solo guilds, or guilds with like 5-10 people can have unlocks for practically no cost, when since the ships have been launched, everyone has had to save and work to pay the existing price. They lowered the cost of the ship by like 32 million, I think that is extremely helpful to people that have "small guilds". I mean now what, they are suppose to make unlock prices so low as to provide for the lowest common denominator?

What about the people that saved, and worked their asses off to get the credits to open unlocks? I guess they are just out of luck huh?

This argument is the same exact thing as the link above, how it is conquest is unfair etc etc...
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casirabit
07.18.2019 , 06:11 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Xina_LA View Post
Don't care if it's necro, it's still a good point.

The problem is that there is no way for small guilds to earn room unlocks.

I'm not asking for a freebie or a discount. I'm just asking that there be a path to encryption rewards that doesn't reset before a small guild can reach the goal.

Oh, and one billion credits is not a reasonable credit sink.
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TheGreyRanger
07.18.2019 , 07:17 PM | #20
Actually a small guild can just buy the frameworks on the GTN, thus making it yet another needed credit sink.