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Sorcerer\Sage Lightsaber usage

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ceryxp
01.22.2021 , 03:57 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Phazonfreak View Post
I think you meant prior to 4.0. The big class overhaul was introduced with the release of SoR and when KOTFE came around we had to pick an advanced class during character creation.
Nope, 5.0. Check the patch notes.

https://www.swtor.com/patchnotes/112...e-early-access
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Choose your Advanced Class at character creation! Existing characters that have not yet chosen an Advanced Class will be prompted to do so after logging into the game.

Double Strike is now Shadow exclusive.
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Phazonfreak
01.22.2021 , 04:14 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by ceryxp View Post
Nope, 5.0. Check the patch notes.

https://www.swtor.com/patchnotes/112...e-early-access


Shadow of Revan was 3.0, Fallen Empire was 4.0, and Eternal Throne was 5.0.
Interesting, I was sure that the change to character selection was made when KOTFE came out. Time really flies sometimes.

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ceryxp
01.22.2021 , 04:29 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Phazonfreak View Post
Interesting, I was sure that the change to character selection was made when KOTFE came out. Time really flies sometimes.
Well, keep in mind that 5.0 release in November 2016. It was three years from 5.0, 11/2016, to 6.0, 10/2019. But yeah, it is hard to imagine that it has been four years since they took away the base classes. I miss being a Consular.
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01.22.2021 , 09:44 PM | #24
I use their lightsaber just because I can, mainly for trash mobs. Both do have lighsaber abilities some more than other dependant on skill tree.

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Macetheace
01.24.2021 , 04:55 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by DreadtechSavant View Post
I use their lightsaber just because I can, mainly for trash mobs. Both do have lighsaber abilities some more than other dependant on skill tree.
Yeah.. me too. I've got some ideas I think will really help us:


1. Allow saber strike and double strike (returned) to be off the GCD, so if you're in melee range you can cast with one hand and strike.
2. Impeding slash doesn't replace saberstrike but is it's own ability and trainable by sage/sorc
3. New passive that builds a stacking buff that would enhance your melee abilities at max stack you can do a force leap.
4. Add the floating saber ability mentioned in the earlier response
5. Add the Force leap (at max stacks only) and force disengage (puts force speed on cooldown) abilities also mentioned earlier (new animation - force leap is a multi flip in the air (think Yoda in star wars who can rotate several times as he is jumping to locations). Force disengage is force added black flip away from the target as described above.
6. Add a Saber fling ability (new animation rather than in an arc like the Knight/Marauders, it's in a frontal cone, like how you would fling a knife at target practice) while the saber travel to it's target and back, your ranged spells gain something (off the gcd? less cast time? more power, more crit, or even ability modification)
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GreyestJedi
01.30.2021 , 05:57 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Macetheace View Post
I think the desire is the fantasy we see in star wars, great force users can also sometimes be great at other things, there is no role in the game for a Count Dooku type or Yoda type who are both great force users and lightsaber duelists. The thing is the game has these fixed roles. But there are several things the devs can do.

Options
1. New Hybrid Class: For class story purposes, this class can actually select the path of the Consular/Sorc or Knight/Warrior, it's a class designed to be able to dps from range or melee competently if you choose and effecitvely combines abilities from the melee classes and range specs.

2. New System that allows players to add a specialisation from any other class, where they can swap like a mode during combat. e.g. if your sage or sorc could pick up a melee spec from the knight/jugg , sent/mara or shadow/assassin and be able to switch specs in combat like you are switching a druid form (from warcraft) or a mode/stance - then they can play out that fantasy fully.. So want to pelt from range for a little while, then fancy going in close quarters? then switch to your melee mode and gain new action bars (and switch weapon automatically). That is one way to do it... but this would require every class being able to gain or pick a spec from another class, and opens a lot of possibilities, which could include able to start the class quest of the spec you choose to learn.

At the heart of it you can be a Count Dooku or Yoda type, great with the force and great at duelling.

3. Add A Very interesting New Ability to Sage/Sorc that opens up some melee combat. Floating Lightsaber allows the Sage/Sorc to be able to send their weapon into melee like a pet on a cooldown (think dancing runeblade but much better), while they damage from range - this is a special ability like in one of the earlier KotoRs, this new "pet" i.e. your lightsaber that you will be using the force to essentially give it a life of its own, has a number of fancy looking moves it can do. While you damage from range, it will melee. The cool thing about this ability is that you can use those lightsaber moves yourself if you are in melee, they do a lot more damage if you are using them, because it is no longer a "pet" and presumably you are using them instead of your range abilities. They come with a dis-engage ability that allows you back flip out 20-30 yards back to range, and a force leap flip that allows you to quickly leap into combat. this force leap shares a cooldown with force speed.
I really like the idea of a hybrid system! Or even a class-less system.
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Atalantia
01.31.2021 , 12:03 AM | #27
this comment from the above poster would work awesomely
Was before F2P

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GreyestJedi
01.31.2021 , 01:25 PM | #28
I would really just like Force Users to be able to use any type of lightsaber

And firearm users to be able to use any type of firearm.

Thank you swtor
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