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If you could do anything.


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irrevelant
01.24.2019 , 02:19 AM | #1
Right now you are limited by the possibilities of the game. The number of dialogue choices, and the possible decisions. Though you got some options they are still limited in some way.

So question is: what if they weren't? If you could write in any dialogue, or action options for any quests, then what would you change?

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irrevelant
01.24.2019 , 02:29 AM | #2
For one example i would give option for many dialogues to be skipped by starting the fight right away.

Example1: Guys at the vault on Taris in Smuggler's storyline. It's obvious who they are, what they came for, and that combat is likely inevitable. So instead of giving a nice introduction. I would start it by shooting them in the head.

Example 2: When you first fight Arcann. The moment i saw that guy it was obvious, that something doesn't add up. So sneak on, weapon in hand, and instead of talking to Arcann i just shoot him in the head. Or try at least.

Another part is when i get into the wilds with Darth Marr, and Satelee. I would skip that entirely saying, that i don't trust Valkorion, and go for the mission right away. Might even blast Vaylen, and Arcann into space with their own fleet.

The list would go on, but one more is that i would try. Is to give back the Geminis' free will. Maybe it's just the Stellaris's influence, but in my Empire. Your freedom is granted, because you are intelligent enough to have it. And will be taken, because you use that intelligence against my laws. In my point the Gemini's are enslaved, and while granting them freedom is not easy. At least i would try.

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Paulsutherland
01.24.2019 , 03:19 AM | #3
During the Second attack on Odessen ... I would have switched sides ... so I could fight with Vaylin against the Alliance.

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irrevelant
01.24.2019 , 04:11 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland View Post
During the Second attack on Odessen ... I would have switched sides ... so I could fight with Vaylin against the Alliance.
Would have been interesting, if you could try at least. Though Vaylin would have refused it. She wants Valkorion dead more than anything, and she believes, that by killing you she is one step closer to that goal. Though if you could convince her, that you have the same goal. Like asking your companions to tell what you think about Valkorion, what he has done to them. Convince her, that you hate him as much as she does.

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Paulsutherland
01.24.2019 , 04:45 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by irrevelant View Post
Would have been interesting, if you could try at least. Though Vaylin would have refused it. She wants Valkorion dead more than anything, and she believes, that by killing you she is one step closer to that goal. Though if you could convince her, that you have the same goal. Like asking your companions to tell what you think about Valkorion, what he has done to them. Convince her, that you hate him as much as she does.
In the cut content Vaylin comes to realise Valkorion has been duping everyone and sounds like she does back down. (or at least that's how I recall it when I heard it.) so I wouldn't say it's impossible to team up ... then if you do super DS stuff with her she may have a change of heart.

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irrevelant
01.24.2019 , 05:17 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland View Post
In the cut content Vaylin comes to realise Valkorion has been duping everyone and sounds like she does back down. (or at least that's how I recall it when I heard it.) so I wouldn't say it's impossible to team up ... then if you do super DS stuff with her she may have a change of heart.
In the last mission she also sides with you against Valkorion when you fight with him in your head. I'm not sure, if she is interested in ruling at all. She seems to be more like obsessed in killing her parents.
If it were up to me:
At some point you must kill Senya, and Arcann.
Lord Scourge appears after that decision. Maybe replacing Arcann during Vaylin's party. You must accept Lord Scourge's offer to join, if you want Vaylin later.
You must gather all holos in the bonus objective on Nathema.

Right before you face Vaylin on Odesen you could start telling all the atrocities Valkorion did, and claiming, that you are more than willing to work with her to defeat him. You would take on her pride in her power. Stating, that with her raw power, and your knowledge you could get rid of Valkorion once and for all.
She would tell, that you know nothing about her, and you would reveal, that you know everything from the holos on Nathema.
Then she asks why she shouldn't just kill you. You need Lord Scourge to confirm, that simply killing you wouldn't help. Valkorion would just get a new body.
Vaylin puts away her saber, and agrees to join forces to kill Valkorion. At this point Valkorion panics, and knock you out to take over your body. Lord Scourge, and Vaylin uses the artifact to help you inside your mind. After Valkorion's death, and you awake Lana tells you, that Vaylin left. Nobody had the courage to stop her leaving, but she left behind a message. The message is a confession of Vaylin's. She tells, that she never wanted to rule. All she wanted is to take revenge on her parents, and now, that her revenge is complete she isn't sure what to do next. For now she just wants to be alone to think, and travel the galaxy as a free woman without the bindings of the ruling, and the Throne.

You would lose Senya, and Arcann, but save the companion Vaylin would kill, and get Lord Scourge. Also Vaylin would get some other stuff in later content. For those who killed Vaylin she would be replaced by Lord Scourge.

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Paulsutherland
01.24.2019 , 05:56 AM | #7
Actually ... If I can do anything ... I would rewrite the entirety of KOTFE/ET/FA ... so each class has their own experiences with the war against Zakuul. Darth Marr and or Satele would take up the role of the 'Outlander' while the characters would take on the role of advisors.

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irrevelant
01.24.2019 , 08:00 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Paulsutherland View Post
Actually ... If I can do anything ... I would rewrite the entirety of KOTFE/ET/FA ... so each class has their own experiences with the war against Zakuul. Darth Marr and or Satele would take up the role of the 'Outlander' while the characters would take on the role of advisors.
Now that would be something i don't remember ever having in RPG games. Usually it's one of these:
You are the ruiler, but your advisors, and allies tell everything to do.
You are just a small person, and thel leaders/ruler give you tasks.
In rare cases:
You do what you want.

Now having someone else as ruler, and actively giving advice in a semi-strategic game would be awesome, but not MMO compatible. In MMO you share the place with all players, and by making different decisions each player would end up in a different phase. Turning the whole stuff into an Co-RPG style like Guild Wars 1 was. Though i think i would still like it. Strange how rare to have a strategy+RPG mixed game. Such as some Sid Meier's Pirates, Godfather 2, and Mount & Blade.

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JuventusAndFCK
01.25.2019 , 09:12 AM | #9
There are quite a few points in the game where I feel like a third, very obvious, choice would be warranted. It's rare that we get more than two, which are usually light/dark side alligned. I'd also like to see more choices that don't necessarily result in a specific moral allignment.

The best example I can think of is Trooper mission on Coruscant. You get the choice to obey Garza and kill suspected cyborgs or don't and release them. In this instance I don't understand why the 'borgs can't just be left and some specialists called to investigate the claim about their implants.

There are a couple of times in the game where I feel like two choices don't cut it, and they aren't necessarily major story choices either.

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VelvetSanity
01.26.2019 , 06:50 AM | #10
If I could do anything...
Id play an Entertainer. Not sure if Id go dancer or musician, though.
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