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How did Han get to Bespin with no light speed?


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Ok, I'll spell this one out clearly for the hard of thinking. Yes, Han clearly states they're in the Anoat system. But they took off from the Hoth system. Without a hyperdrive. This is not possible unless they spent a year or two crawling along at sublight speeds or found a handy wormhole or Gree jumpgate everyone forgot to tell us about. Therefore either:

 

a) Han's full of $hit and/or can't read a navigation computer.

or

b) Lucas got some trivial detail wrong that only obsessive fanboy apologists care about and everyone's been scrambling to cover his arse about it for the last thirty years.

 

This is pretty much the definition of what a plot hole is. So yes, it is a plot hole, and it'll still be a plot hole regardless of how many different desperate explanations people come up with to attempt to justify a simple script error in a fantasy movie.

 

Yes the Anoat system isn't that far from Hoth, they didn't need to travel that far from Hoth to get into the Anoat system and then go to Bespin.

 

You got it. Both Hoth and Bespin are in the Anot Sector

 

Here's a map. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:AnoatSectorMap.jpg

 

Thank you Pirate.

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Oh right. So they only had to travel two stars away according to a made-up map with zero credentials at sublight speeds in a week or two. Well when you put it like that it all makes so much sense.

 

/facepalm

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I think without any kind of Faster than Light travel the travel would be impossible. I mean look at the distances you travel within the game to go from say Hoth to Dromund Kaas, its like 17017 parasecs...something like that, it was one of those cross galaxy destinations I did.

 

So 17017 x 3.26(parasec) = 55475.42 Light Years, so at the speed of light...its 55,475.42 years of travel...think about it.

 

 

Now to something a bit more on topic, http://www.starwarsmap.com/official_star_wars_galaxy_map_picture_image_photo_pic_pix_photograph/star_wars_map_star_wars_galaxy_map_official_galactic_map_star_wars_universe_1.jpg

 

Look in the lower left of the map, Outer Rim. They are pretty close, so at sub-light speeds, Anoat to Bespin, is possible

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To shorten what Sithica said: It's a damn movie, movies have things that make no sense for the act of storytelling or entertainment.

 

And concerning the Turbolaser thing. YES it is superheated gas. BUT HOW COME IT MAKES A PEW PEW PEW SOUND?

 

There is no way for sound to travel in a vacuum.

 

Anyway love the movies and love this game. take it for what it is.

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Gentlemen, gentlemen, there's an easy built-in and in-universe explanation for all of this. For sound in vacuums, for sub-light interstellar travel, for Ewoks learning to blink, for your character clipping through the floor, and for Yoda existing simultaneously as a puppet and a CGI creation:

 

The Force made it so.

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You got it. Both Hoth and Bespin are in the Anot Sector

 

Here's a map. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:AnoatSectorMap.jpg

 

They are still light years apart. Even at light speed it would have taken years to travel that far. That's even leaving aside that when Han got there traveling at light speed, millions of years would have passed from the frame of reference of those not traveling at light speed. Everyone Han knew would have been long dead.

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They are still light years apart. Even at light speed it would have taken years to travel that far. That's even leaving aside that when Han got there traveling at light speed, millions of years would have passed from the frame of reference of those not traveling at light speed. Everyone Han knew would have been long dead.

 

So how come they weren't old or dead when they went from Hoth to the Anoat system?...It can't be that far. Plus remember Han's YT-1300 is heavily modified, he is able to outrun imperial cruisers the big corellian ones.

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Because Yavin Prime was a gas giant, not a terrestrial planet. To use our real planets... I'll give you the Death Star's take on them... "Space Dust" or "Damn..."

 

Mercury: Space Dust

Venus: Space Dust

Earth: Space Dust

Mars: Space Dust

Jupiter: Damn...

Saturn: Damn...

Uranus: Damn...

Neptune: Damn...

Pluto: Space Dust.

 

Yavin Prime is "Damn..."

 

 

 

*shakes head* If you're going to try to prove me wrong please do your homework.

 

"Yavin's atmosphere was made up of thick clouds swept about by violent, hurricane-force winds. Any craft that entered the atmosphere without benefit of a tracking beacon would quickly become lost, its pilot disoriented by the buffeting winds. It was believed these storms lasted all the way to the surface without letting up."

 

That work there, surface... yea.

 

 

Now to disprove your Jupiter theory...

 

"Jupiter is thought to consist of a dense core with a mixture of elements, a surrounding layer of liquid metallic hydrogen with some helium, and an outer layer predominantly of molecular hydrogen."

 

I take it you believe the Death Stars super laser fires something like a projectile and when it hits the surface of a planet that is when it destroys said planet... you'd be wrong.. for a third time.

 

"The energy delivered into a target was so great that it could cause the target's atoms to split into matter-antimatter pairs and annihilate themselves, generating a powerful surge capable of rupturing the barrier between normal space and hyperspace"

 

The first thing the Death Star destroys is the atmosphere, afterwords it's a chain reaction that results in the surface's destruction.

 

Please do your Science Fiction homework before trying to add RL theory ( that is wrong also ) to prove how right you are.

 

 

 

 

 

Now for all you Han Solo and light speed travel people on this thread that think I am bringing up why didn't Grand Moff Tarkin destroy Yavin Prime to change the original topic.. realize that had they just destroyed Yavin Prime it'd of saved the Death Star all that travel time. Oh wait, travel time? Isn't that what we're discussing about how Han made it from Hoth to Bespin? We know that the Millennium Falcon can out-run the large Star Destroyers so obviously it could outrun the Death Star. Look at how long it took the Death Star to travers around Yavin Prime when it was going with the flow of Yavin IV. It would take the Millennium Falcon a few weeks to travel from Anuat System to Bespin. Just because something goes by in an instant in the movies does not mean it did so in the actual SW universe. Between some of the books is years, III and IV there is a 3 year gap. Imagine how BORING it'd of been for George Lucas to show Han, Leia, Chewie and C-3PO just chilling in the Millennium Falcon for weeks... Why do you think everyone hated C-3PO? Ever take a 2 week long drive through space with a droid?

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Just to Clear where Bespin And Hoth are, Bespin is in The Bespin System and Hoth is in the Hoth system. both systems are in the outer rim Territories. Anoat System is a totally separate system, located between the Hoth And Bespin System..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bespin

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoth

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_systems (Look For Anoat)

 

Anoat

 

Located between the Hoth and Bespin Systems, the Anoat System consists primarily of three inhospitable planets, Anoat, Deyer, and Gentes. The Millennium Falcon passed through the relatively deserted system while escaping from the Empire. The three planets (including Gentes, home of the Ugnaughts) were abandoned sometime before the Galactic Civil War.

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I think it was safe to say that it took quite a while, weeks at least. Maybe less time to get there, and I think that he was very close to it but then again it does make too much sense but it IS Star Wars.

 

Plenty of time Luke to train more with Yoda and for Boba Fett to figure out where they are going to try and dock so that the Empire can properly prepare an ambush.

 

The movie just didn't do a great job of showing a long period of time had passed.

 

 

Im probably wrong though.

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They are still light years apart. Even at light speed it would have taken years to travel that far. That's even leaving aside that when Han got there traveling at light speed, millions of years would have passed from the frame of reference of those not traveling at light speed. Everyone Han knew would have been long dead.

 

First part is right, second part is wrong. From the Falcons perspective, travelling really really really close to the speed of light, barely any time would pass on the way to Bespin. From the perspective of people moving more slowly (such as Luke or those on Bespin), years would pass while the Falcon made the journey.

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