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Its both their dots and their WS that eat our stacks. As long as both slingers have same gear, hybrid gain form my stacks exactly the amount I would gain, so raid-wide dps is the same. This is however only true until last 30%, where eating stacks leads to decrease of dps, as DF cant fully utilize +15% buff from skill tree

 

Good point about the sub-30 ability meaning hybrid (or ss) won't mix as well as another DF.

 

As to dots vs WS eating it, I just meant that as dirty fighting you make sure to have WS eat HB stacks, and the others wouldn't be timing their WS to line up with your HB (or wouldn't have them at all, and with less vital shot damage to boot, if you're raiding with sharpshooters/scrappers).

 

Thinking more, though, it's not so bad and could be quite good: you only get to eat HB stacks with the first WS in rotation, and if anyone else is casting WS then too, you could get more raid-wide dps out of HB actually by having WS's consume a greater share of the stacks.

 

In particular if you have two DF gunslingers, you ideally want them to have their rotations "out of phase" (i.e. one uses HB and then you both WS, and then after a few gcds the other uses HB and you both WS) and they'd each do more dps than they would alone. I guess you could test this on a dummy with two people hitting it. Or maybe you don't need them to be out of phase to gain this benefit: what happens if there are two HB's up on the boss at the same time?

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If you put two different HB stacks, they sum up and act like there was 20 in total. They do not mulitply

 

And your point of other slingers not timing their WS is invalid. In our usuall raid enviroment where I'm the only DF + 3 hybrids + 1 SS, the moment I start casting WS there is already only ~4 stacks left. They dont have to time anything. 11 dots tick on those stacks everytime, and that 1.5s is enough to have a maximum of first tick of WS buffed

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Corrupter Zero

Antonica - Focus Guardian - Aisthesis - 2862.71 http://www.torparse.com/a/462487/27/0/Overview

Draxus

Antonica - Focus Guardian - Aisthesis - 2453.17 http://www.torparse.com/a/462453/14/0/Overview

Grob'thok

Antonica - Focus Guardian - Aisthesis - 3429.25 http://www.torparse.com/a/486986/13/0/Overview

 

These parses are all ancient, so I could do much better now if we still did 16-man.

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Was playing SS for fun, for the first time since Trasher progression :D

 

Brontes

Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2606.69 dps

http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/22/0/Overview

 

Calphayus

Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2390.12 dps

http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/43/0/Overview

 

Raptus

Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2577 dps

http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/47/0/Overview

 

Dread Masters

Hôpë - Sharpshooter Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2815.88 dps

http://www.torparse.com/a/603433/51/0/Overview

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Suddenly all our gunslingers is either Dirty Fighting or SS, I am starting to feel like I am playing a useless specc, ALSO FIRST TIME IN LIKE A MONTH I SURVIVE LASER ON CORRUPTER HAHAHA (now someone else has to pay our raidleader 200k).

 

Draxus

Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3211.38 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/time/1393443057/1393443432/0/Overview

 

Grob'thok

Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3767.7 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/time/1393443682/1393444040/0/Overview

 

Corruptor Zero

Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3616.14 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/16/0/Overview

 

Dread Palace

Bestia

Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3345.23 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/33/0/Overview

 

Raptus

Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 2724.44 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/47/0/Overview

 

Dread Masters

Rikacha - Hybrid Gunslinger - Not Good Enough - 3168.61 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/603591/50/0/Overview

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Nefra, Who Bars the Way 16M

Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 3412.21 http://www.torparse.com/a/602926

 

Gate Commander Draxus 16M

Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 2259.12 http://www.torparse.com/a/602926

 

Grob'thok, Who Feeds the Forge 16M

Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 3370.84 http://www.torparse.com/a/602926

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Nefra, Who Bars the Way

Evolixe - Infiltration Shadow - Rebel Dream - 3367.91

http://www.torparse.com/a/604094/1/0/Damage+Dealt

 

Grob'thok, Who Feeds the Forge

Evolixe - Infiltration Shadow - Rebel Dream - 3592.09

http://www.torparse.com/a/604094/9/0/Damage+Dealt

 

Dread Master Tyrans

Evolixe - Infiltration Shadow - Rebel Dream - 3180.31

http://www.torparse.com/a/604094/33/0/Damage+Dealt

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Been working hard, haven't raided in at least 2 weeks going 3 now :(. Looks like Pyrotechs replaced Hybrid as the new 3.3~3.4K Dread Masters DPS now :rolleyes:

 

Btw i'm fine with nefra in front of each of my submitted parses. Easy to find which one is mine.

 

Fixed :D and updated.

 

Nefra, Who Bars the Way

Sãyan (Warfat) - Vengeance Ravageur - Abyss - 3412.21

 

I can not take this due to:

 

Ending Event: Mort
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Gate Commander Draxus

16-man

Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 2815 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/7/0/Damage+Dealt

 

Grob'thok, Who Feeds the Forge

16-man

Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3686 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/11/0/Damage+Dealt

 

Corruptor Zero

16-man

Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3261 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/14/0/Damage+Dealt

 

Dread Master Bestia

16-man

Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3318 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/24/0/Damage+Dealt

 

Dread Master Tyrans

16-man

Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 3135 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/28/0/Damage+Dealt

 

Dread Master Raptus

16-man

Evannor - Telekinetics Sage - Manticore - 2318 http://www.torparse.com/a/604710/41/0/Damage+Dealt

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Nefra

Nikkos - Vigilance Guardian - Manticore - 3514.7 http://www.torparse.com/a/595662/time/1392763938/1392764289/0/Overview

 

Crrouptor Zero

Nikkos - Focus Guardian - Manticore - 3811.57 http://www.torparse.com/a/604272/18/0/Overview

 

Milksteak - Hybrid Gunslinger - Manticore - 3836.75 http://www.torparse.com/a/557762/33/0/Overview

 

Tyrans

Nikkos - Vigilance Guardian - Manticore - 3345.25 http://www.torparse.com/a/604272/31/0/Overview

 

Raptus

Nikkos - Vigilance Guardian - Manticore - 2838.77 http://www.torparse.com/a/604272/44/0/Overview

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Nefra

Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 3642.87 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/time/1393556858/1393556969/0/Damage+Dealt

Trimmed for droid

Draxus

Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2510.56 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/36/0/Damage+Dealt

Calphayus

Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2537.96 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/63/0/Damage+Dealt

Raptus

Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2528.56 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/67/0/Damage+Dealt

Dread Masters

Alvor - Vengeance Juggernaut - Aurum Gaming - 2983.82 http://www.torparse.com/a/605546/70/0/Damage+Dealt

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