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Rydarus' 4.0+ Vigilance/Vengeance Guide on Dulfy

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Rydarus' 4.0+ Vigilance/Vengeance Guide on Dulfy

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Silentcricket
12.06.2014 , 03:57 PM | #11
To waste any slot on Acc with a Shien user is pointless. You should go power crit and surge. Those are you're three stats to go after. Acc is for Juyo or Aturu. Why do you think they changed riposte around? So you guys can waste mod slots just so you don't need to use it? You should be trying to power through ones defense not go around it.

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GrandLordMenace
12.06.2014 , 04:26 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Silentcricket View Post
To waste any slot on Acc with a Shien user is pointless. You should go power crit and surge. Those are you're three stats to go after. Acc is for Juyo or Aturu. Why do you think they changed riposte around? So you guys can waste mod slots just so you don't need to use it? You should be trying to power through ones defense not go around it.
Uhm....

So many things wrong with this statement.

Focus has riposte enabled in it's rotation, and Vigilance doesn't have the resource for it, plus all your abilities in rotation do more damage.

Try again idiot.
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GrandLordMenace
12.06.2014 , 04:27 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by darth_psychose View Post
thanks for your guide

full augment + dread master's set + rusaan relic (99.60 accuracy & 70.48 surge ) screen

before 3.0 with dread master full & dread forged MH & relic i was 4043DPS.
Yeah I'm doing about 4100 ATM but running a full ACC build.
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veSev
12.06.2014 , 05:42 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Silentcricket View Post
To waste any slot on Acc with a Shien user is pointless. You should go power crit and surge. Those are you're three stats to go after. Acc is for Juyo or Aturu. Why do you think they changed riposte around? So you guys can waste mod slots just so you don't need to use it? You should be trying to power through ones defense not go around it.
Try doing this then make this statement.....I am sure you'll find the exact opposite to be true.

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Tovbot
12.06.2014 , 06:24 PM | #15
How much accuracy is needed to reach 100%?

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Silentcricket
12.06.2014 , 11:16 PM | #16
Lol. Thanks for the insult. Gotta love people who dislike being confronted with change. Never said replace riposte with one of your abilities. I said, look at the change they made. If you miss you can use it to make up the dps you loss.
I said also, Acc is isn't a prime stat you should be stacking. If you feel Acc is key for Shien/Djem So you're wrong. If you're stacking Acc over Power Strenth Crit or Surge go play a Juyo/Aturu user since they require it.

So many people on these forums using the wrong forms and cry about dps and its know wonder why.

PS. Grand lord who said anything about Focus tree? Post is Vig. Thanks for calling me an idiot.

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TACeMossie
12.06.2014 , 11:18 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Silentcricket View Post
Lol. Thanks for the insult. Gotta love people who dislike being confronted with change. Never said replace riposte with one of your abilities. I said, look at the change they made. If you miss you can use it to make up the dps you loss.
I said also, Acc is isn't a prime stat you should be stacking. If you feel Acc is key for Shien/Djem So you're wrong. If you're stacking Acc over Power Strenth Crit or Surge go play a Juyo/Aturu user since they require it.

So many people on these forums using the wrong forms and cry about dps and its know wonder why.
If you miss a Plasma Brand, Master Strike, Overhead Slash, Dispatch, Blade Storm, Vigilant Thrust, Saber Throw, Force Push, force stasis, or Sundering Strike, the loss of damage will be far worse than the damage gained by using riposte. Deliberately getting no accuracy so you can use riposte is outright stupid.
Oh wait, those are the only abilities you use as a vigilance guardian!

It is a MUST HAVE REQUIREMENT for a DPS to have 100% accuracy. REGARDLESS OF SPEC
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veSev
12.06.2014 , 11:23 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Tovbot View Post
How much accuracy is needed to reach 100%?
For 186s, 7 Accuracy slots + 1 186 Acc Augment will get you 100.08%

Quote: Originally Posted by Silentcricket View Post
Lol. Thanks for the insult. Gotta love people who dislike being confronted with change. Never said replace riposte with one of your abilities. I said, look at the change they made. If you miss you can use it to make up the dps you loss.
I said also, Acc is isn't a prime stat you should be stacking. If you feel Acc is key for Shien/Djem So you're wrong. If you're stacking Acc over Power Strenth Crit or Surge go play a Juyo/Aturu user since they require it.

So many people on these forums using the wrong forms and cry about dps and its know wonder why.

PS. Grand lord who said anything about Focus tree? Post is Vig. Thanks for calling me an idiot.
Think you playing a different game my friend. Gear is a matter of interpretation in many aspects, but if you fail to hit the boss with your heavy hitters than stacking Surge, which is the only stat you mentioned in the same slot as Accuracy, means nothing. Riposte's roughly 3k damage doesn't compare to a 7-10k hit from Overhead Slash or the 15k you get from Master Strike's channel.

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darth_psychose
12.07.2014 , 11:23 AM | #19
i'm going to try 6 x 102 accuracy + 2 x augment accuracy 186 (99.60) & 3 augment surge 186 (1st & 2nd earn +1.2% surge and the 3rd earn +1% surge) and 1820 force bonus damage/25% melee crit

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Joran-Koon
12.08.2014 , 09:39 AM | #20
This game is based in lore but does not treat it like a literal bible to follow bro. Best to stop now before you hurt yourself.

Not 100% on board with a few things in the guide Rydarus but its a good intro to the specs. Also, your missing a link to the calculator in the vig section.
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