I know I can't stay marks for my raid team now as I was our highest DPS then lost 600DPS lol. Thinking maybe operative so my 224 barrel isn't wasted. Who knows though *shrugs*

Our slinger is going commando to keep the same number of ranged in the group but also keep some AoE and good target swap capabilities.

back to DF, other people can now deal with target swapping .

Honestly SS was too strong, not by that much though

Edited December 9, 2015 by ThomasCool

I could understand cutting the 30% to 20% MAYBE 15%, but 10% and zero explanation? That is just...a dirty kick.

Not switching to anything, tho for sustained fights i'll probably go virulence now which is fine. Might go engi for some fights but will have to see.

 

On fights where marksman is "required", i'll still go marksman and try to be better then i was before. Obviously i'll never reclaim that dps and the nerf sucks but i'll still make it work. EC nim is gonna be tricky tho

i do wish slingers got 1 channel on the move ability to make up for this nerf though

I will stay engineering. Yes, it's neutered, but still viable. The nerf is ridiculous though because there's very little chance in practice to hit dummy numbers as engi (in contrast to PT which does more in actual fights) because you can't place all roll bombs in one place like on dummy and if the boss moves even slightly we lose out dps.

 

That does warrant engi a bit higher dps than the rest because practically the engineer can't de facto hit his theorethical numbers.

Our slinger is going commando .

 

Well that's one way to protest

I play Sniper because I like the class, not because of its DPS potential, though that was a nice bonus. Probably gonna have to figure out how to awkwardly do Engi on some fights that I used to do Marksman on(some like Brontes and Styrak are still probably marksman-optimal though) and do more tank and spanks in Virulence over Engineering. Edited December 9, 2015 by OMGITSJAD

I will stay engineering. Yes, it's neutered, but still viable. The nerf is ridiculous though because there's very little chance in practice to hit dummy numbers as engi (in contrast to PT which does more in actual fights) because you can't place all roll bombs in one place like on dummy and if the boss moves even slightly we lose out dps.

 

That does warrant engi a bit higher dps than the rest because practically the engineer can't de facto hit his theorethical numbers.

 

Exactly this too. Having more DPS on a dummy is how Enginerring should work because you can't always keep a target in your multiple AoEs, and when they're taken out the DPS is way lower. People who don't understand the spec whine when they see big numbers and got us nerfed anyway though.

Nothing. Game is definitely dead now. What is the point? Bioware doesnt want anyone to be able to do the hardest content without using the nightmare crystals. No new PvE or PvP content for ages or anytime soon in the future. But hey, atleast cartel market is releasing new items on a regular basis!

Nothing. Game is definitely dead now. What is the point? Bioware doesnt want anyone to be able to do the hardest content without using the nightmare crystals. No new PvE or PvP content for ages or anytime soon in the future. But hey, atleast cartel market is releasing new items on a regular basis!

 

that being said, every returning player who never played the gree event before is most likley screwed since they never get to legend standing in those few days.

 

you better be wrong at this point

Edited December 10, 2015 by Zanthrax

Sniper

No intention of switching because of this, I really haven't noticed any significant difference (though, I only PvE). I do plan on starting the character over at some point, though. More for RP and story reasons than mechanical.

 

I'll probably stay in Marksman (though I was enjoying Virulence for a while too), if only because it suits the character better. I only wish some of the animations were better, and that I could figure out a good way to arrange my skills on my bars.

I don't do PvE outside of solo stuff to feed my PvP habits; but either way, I don't change. Have mained sniper or slinger since launch and had a sin I played a lot early, an operative that I had as an alt in stead when legacy gear became a thing. Have played all the classes and have flirted with maining something different numerous times and honestly have been better at some other classes than my sniper and slinger at times and have quit the game and come back more times than I can count; but I wind up back on my sniper and slinger. I just like the class.

keeping sniper MM, as an above poster say, I feel it suit the class well (its a sniper, not a DoTer imo. Not that I never played virulence but I feel better throwing big shot in people's face !)

 

Just any plan do do HM ops with it I'll just forget tough.

still sniper just changed to virulence

No intention of switching because of this, I really haven't noticed any significant difference (though, I only PvE). I do plan on starting the character over at some point, though. More for RP and story reasons than mechanical.

 

I'll probably stay in Marksman (though I was enjoying Virulence for a while too), if only because it suits the character better. I only wish some of the animations were better, and that I could figure out a good way to arrange my skills on my bars.

 

The difference for MM is significant. However outside of ops - and specifically hm+ - and dummy parses I suspect one wouldn't really notice much change unless the overall dps would start to creep down towards 70-80% of current capability. Chiefly because any pve content outside of aforementioned, and perhaps heroic SF solo, is so mind numbingly easy that even a 50% dps nerf would render it easy.

Edited December 11, 2015 by Eksenia

Seeing as my sniper is my only one with 224/220 gear I'll be staying engineering! Although my parse went down ~7.5%, less snipers means less competition! Right?

This question is rly easy: Van/PT commando/merc sent/mara or unsub

Switching from Engineering to.....hmmm lets see now......Engineering.

tbh ive seen lately huge amount of snipers and gunslingers like people would do quite the opposite of switching from, to switching to. even in one 8v8 wz i had like 3 or 4 slingers against me

Not exactly a terrible thing that there's incentive to play engineering.

So, I have spent significant time in pvp with my sniper post 4.0.3 in all 3 specs. They all have their purpose and I still do pretty well.

 

MM - Head Hunting for Healers. Still has the best burst of any of the specs. Has the downside of being the most LOS unfriendly.

 

Virulence - Best pressure spec. If you want to top the dps meters this is probably the way to go. Downside is weakest burst.

 

Engineering - Somewhere in the middle. EMP discharge gives you a shot at healer kills (with the stun component). More mobile than MM.

 

I think the best comparison for snipers should be marauders. I think that the challenge that MM snipers had (from a Bioware standpoint) is that they had the burst of a Fury Mara (their best comparison). Fury Mara is the lowest dps spec in the game from a pve standpoint. So, I suspect the patch was to align things more along the lines of:

 

Annihilation - Virulence: Best PvE spec. Passable PvP spec

Marksmanship - Fury: Burst Spec - not viable in PvE (except for overmatched content)

Carnage - Engineering: Because their has to be 3 specs...a middle ground.

MM - Head Hunting for Healers.

 

Unless the Sorc Healers tell their pocket PT Tank which is guarding them via voice chat to burst down the Gunslinger ...