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How's Sorc doing overall?

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How's Sorc doing overall?

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Sideblaze
11.17.2019 , 07:27 PM | #1
Coming back after a long time away, we're talking since before KOTFE.

I played my agents and marauder to death back then, so I'm going for something new. How is Sorc right now? I don't remember them being in too good of a place when I last played, but I always loved them from a thematic standpoint.

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Seterade
11.17.2019 , 07:29 PM | #2
"Ok" easy to play, hard to master. Plays average if your just casual, very strong with a lot of skill. great aoe potential, poor single target, but oddly excels at duels (or did in 5.x) and performs poor under 2-3 focus fire (second hand knowledge. in arenas you can triple tunnel a sorc and even with heals [or even guard] they break relatively quickly

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Sideblaze
11.17.2019 , 07:39 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Seterade View Post
"Ok" easy to play, hard to master. Plays average if your just casual, very strong with a lot of skill. great aoe potential, poor single target, but oddly excels at duels (or did in 5.x) and performs poor under 2-3 focus fire (second hand knowledge. in arenas you can triple tunnel a sorc and even with heals [or even guard] they break relatively quickly
I have a lot less time for alts now, so I'm probably going to pour everything in this character, so the idea of standing out by mastering the class appeals to me. You could always spot a good operative over a bad one fairly easily before.

Bad single target, though? Figured stormwatch and that one set bonus would have patched that hole substantially, atleast burstwise.

Also, curious. What are the utilities Sorcs should be using? Moving with thunderous blast is a given, but besides that and the cloud mind one, I'm lost.

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Seterade
11.17.2019 , 08:03 PM | #4
don't know the names but a few consensus ones are "50% speed boost from dark heal" "10%more healing from your own heals" "cloud mind 25% damage reduction" "30% more heal from unnatural preservation(comes with pull gets 25% DR to target)" "force speed breaks roots and slows and grants immunity to"

the rest are kind of debatable. when I played lightning sorc I took the enhanced force speed utility/100% speed up during polarity shift... but that's uncommon. I was a sin main so I was really thrown off by 20 sec force speed cd. other ones can be moving thundering blast, 30% DR when stunned, force barrier stun and god bubble bastion heals. also insta whirlwind and gaulanting cleanse..... GC is an odd one. basically every 30 seconds you get an insta cast after using cleanse, which in theory provide a whirlwind every other cleanse and a TB every other cleanse.

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TrixxieTriss
11.17.2019 , 08:46 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Seterade View Post
"Ok" easy to play, hard to master. Plays average if your just casual, very strong with a lot of skill. great aoe potential, poor single target, but oddly excels at duels (or did in 5.x) and performs poor under 2-3 focus fire (second hand knowledge. in arenas you can triple tunnel a sorc and even with heals [or even guard] they break relatively quickly
Good, post, just disagree with the dual aspect. Unless you are spending 10 mins wearing down your opponents health (that’s assuming they can’t heal them selves or stealth out the heal), then they aren’t good at duals. It’s either a stale mate because they have strong survivabilty in 1v1 or it’s a loss.

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KumbayaGOD
11.17.2019 , 09:11 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Sideblaze View Post
Coming back after a long time away, we're talking since before KOTFE.

I played my agents and marauder to death back then, so I'm going for something new. How is Sorc right now? I don't remember them being in too good of a place when I last played, but I always loved them from a thematic standpoint.
sorc is very strong right now , so if you going to play this class its a fotm
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EmperorRus
11.17.2019 , 10:28 PM | #7
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poor single target
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Bad single target, though?
*cough*

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sorc is very strong right now
Lightning] sorc? Sure. But Madness is totally unviable now and Corruption healing...well, our effectiveness in 6.0 is around 50% lower than in 5.9.

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Seterade
11.17.2019 , 10:30 PM | #8
he's asking about pvp bud, not top parses with adrenals, bis, timers and perfection results.

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septru
11.17.2019 , 11:20 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
Good, post, just disagree with the dual aspect... they aren’t good at duals.
*duels

But also. This is just wrong. Ling sorc was extremely strong in duels (at least in 5.0). It was better than every single class (except operative), and even could beat mediocre operatives. Madness did better than some classes and worse against others because of it's unique dueling elements, but was still better than the average dueling classes.

In the totality of the class, there was no matchup a sorc couldn't win. Ultimately the dueling hierarchy was: operative>ling sorc>merc>sniper>all the irrelevant classes.
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Csjbo
11.18.2019 , 12:02 PM | #10
I can't speak for Sorc heals personally, from what I've heard from Sorc Healers is that they're not even close to being the dominant force they were in 5.0. Meta shifting to Merc Heals.

When it comes to DPS, Madness sorc still has some of the best cleave potential, however they are IMO the squishiest class in the game....at least when it comes to damage mitigation, in particular, white damage. Can you make Madness work? With proper positioning and kiting....sure, any ranged class can be pulled off, but it's the inferior DPS sorc spec.

Lightning Sorc on the other hand, is IMO the strongest spec in 6.0*. Their tacticals and set bonuses and new ability synergize the best so far out of all the classes. They can do passable single-target burst, but unlike most burst specs, do their best damage in cleave. The damage mitigation is still there. There's a statement which can be said that Lightning Sorcs break PVP.....literally...the game engine can't handle chain lightning spam. The only aspect of Lightning Sorcs and just DPS Sorcs in general that are 'weak' in 6.0 are their offheals...Lethality Operatives offer way better offheals.

*Not taking into account class-stacking, Deception Sins/Concealment Ops perform much better when paired with another player of the same class.
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