Kryand Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I believe Single Saber Mastery adds the 20% it mentions to your WpnDmgMin. Oh... that's what I get for not reading thoroughly. I saw that it was the passive for lightsaber forms and assumed it didn't do anything if I had no form active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire-breath Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 So, they have a damage reduction of ~36%? Yes. 36,75% to be precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryand Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) More Juggernaut calculation woes... activating a lightsaber form is not doing exactly what is advertised, according to the tooltips. Same results both in and out of Vengeance discipline. No Form Vicious Slash: (1+0.08)*578*1.2 + 1.61*1100.9 + 0.161*3185 = 3034.322 Force Scream: 1.87*1713.2 + 0.167*3185 = 3735.579 Both match the tooltip. Shii-cho Form Should increase melee damage by 3% and force damage by a total of 6%, according to the description. So... Vicious Slash = 3125, but the tooltip says 3235. Force Scream = 3960, but the tooltip says 3980. Shien Form Should increase melee damage by 9% and force damage by 6%, according to the description. So... Vicious Slash = 3307, but the tooltip says 3444. Force Scream = 3960, but the tooltip says 4233. Soresu Form Should decrease all damage by 10%. So... Vicious Slash = 2731, but the tooltip says 2416. Force Scream = 3362, but the tooltip says 2983. So if someone can figure that one out, I'd be interested. Edited December 22, 2014 by Kryand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceazare Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 All tank stances have either wrong tooltips or wrong effect, damage is actually decreased by 20%. As for the rest, I have no idea what's going on. Tried my jug and guardian, both at lvl 55 and both without Single Saber Mastery trained. In shi-choo, tooltips go up by ~6.6%, same as you're getting. I couldn't find any probable causes for it so either we're missing something, or there is a stance or tooltip bug. Any chance you could do a few chokes on dummy and see if they match tooltip? At lvl 55 I'd get resists all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryand Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 My Force Chokes all match the math and values given in the form descriptions, including the 10% reduction from Soresu. So it seems like it's just a tooltip bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazcon Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'd like to find info on the 4.0 formula changes, so I can update my 'Gear Grinder', my item database and 'build builder'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipstik Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 you were able to dig up this thread but not find the new one? http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=843004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazcon Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Why so negative? Make you feel powerful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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