Darth_Urtani Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 At least that's what George Lucas says. According to him, Greedo has always shot first. http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1218385p1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperkeepet Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 This has got to be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Urtani Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 This has got to be a joke. Midichlorians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeckTator Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I don't even see the point of the argument. It was clear Greedo was to kill him. It doesn't matter who shot first it was self defence either way, and even if Han shot first it was no cold blooded kill, it was a him or me situation. Whats the big deal? It makes no difference what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) I don't even see the point of the argument. It was clear Greedo was to kill him. It doesn't matter who shot first it was self defence either way, and even if Han shot first it was no cold blooded kill, it was a him or me situation. Whats the big deal? It makes no difference what so ever. It's a black and white morality thing. The hero is never supposed to swing/shoot first. As Lucas has aged, his morality seems to have shifted to a very black and white vision, and he's changed his work to reflect this. Compare the amount of people Indiana Jones kills in the first several movies to how many he kills in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. For whatever twisted reason, Lucas seems to now believes heroes should never, ever kill. Edited February 10, 2012 by Yfelsung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Maybe I'm just some weirdo minority Star Wars fan but frankly I've never cared who shot first: one way or the other. Heck it was a while before I even noticed Greedo shot first in the special editions. Edited February 10, 2012 by OldVengeance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechavomit Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe I'm just some weirdo minority Star Wars fan but frankly I've never cared who shot first. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I second that. Thirded, im more impressed he got 4 shots off at a dark lord of the sith Aka: Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe I'm just some weirdo minority Star Wars fan but frankly I've never cared who shot first: one way or the other. Heck it was a while before I even noticed Greedo shot first in the special editions. The reason people care is that it fundamentally changes Han's character. If Greedo fires first, Han is just a regular hero, probably Chaotic Good. If Han fires first, he's somewhat of an anti-hero, more Chaotic Neutral with good leanings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardbird Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 There was only one shot... so, no firsts or seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeedaiFiresaber Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 My issue is more with how BAD the scene looks now with Han twitching his head all weird, and in the last 3 versions the audio has been slightly changed. one time he mouthed 'i bet you have' but didn't say it. If you consider it now he's really lucky Greedo missed I guess? whereas before, he distracted him and when the moment came he shot first. The change kinda diminishes Han's rogue, dashing self in my eyes. But its probably from seeing him shoot first and only shoot for so many years that the change is abrupt to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcleaver Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 This is right up there with all the pistols were removed and replaced with walkie-talkies at the end of E.T. How could Han shoot first in a perfect carebear world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharag Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 don;t care what george has to say ... the original format of episode 4 clearly shows Han shot first ... thats the way it was released and thats the way the story is told ... end of discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNCommand Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Every month someone makes this exact same thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midasear Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I was very upset when the very first post-launch nerf in SWTOR was to a Smuggler ability named "Shoot First". Lucas' evil hand was definitely at work there. I was also very disappointed when it turned out that the name Hanshot'First had already been taken on my server. I'm pretty sure GL has snagged it for himself on every server. But we won't be silenced. The Truth is out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSwiss Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Its very clear. look at the first movie that was made then the special editon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidacid Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Porkin's shot first skip to 0:50 Edited February 11, 2012 by Liquidacid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfSight Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Han shot first. Everyone is mad as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasBishop Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Han Solo did not shoot first because han solo is in fact a ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 The reason people care is that it fundamentally changes Han's character. If Greedo fires first, Han is just a regular hero, probably Chaotic Good. If Han fires first, he's somewhat of an anti-hero, more Chaotic Neutral with good leanings. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomla Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Compare the amount of people Indiana Jones kills Best kill ever in an Indiana film. *Masked guy swings sword around looking to chop up Indi* *Indi pulls gun out and shoots him* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RixoFutu Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Best kill ever only thanks to Ford's poor healt condition in that time I'm very glad he was sick back there, in a good way of thinking ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustrumRidcully Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thirded, im more impressed he got 4 shots off at a dark lord of the sith Aka: Vader. And in fact, didn't he shoot first there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urushira Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 And in fact, didn't he shoot first there? yeah, he did. As han and company walk into the room, vader turns to face them. without a word Han pulls his blaster and opens up.. Han also really did shoot first in the original movie ( both the 35mm version and the 70mm version ). Later, the scene was edited to make Han appear to be less cold blooded. After all, it was the my lil pony era and we couldnt let our heros have nasty characteristics right?? For those wondering, the difference between the 35mm version and the 70mm version was the "close the blast doors/open the blast doors" sequence. It wasnt originally in the 35mm version.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 who gives a ****...honestly.. Why does it bother some.. but wait...some things bother others but not me...oh crap.. Sorry guys..if it bothers you...damm I DONT KNOOWWW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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