ZeusThunder Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 It's painfully obvious in all these posts about TM and GR that the OP just doesn't know much about PvP. If you can't recognize the fact that these specs will always get beat in a 1v1 fight and are very susceptible to LOS then you just shouldn't be posting your "insights" for everyone to see. These people are probably just letting themselves get nuked by these classes and came to the determination that if it killed them it must be OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khremlin Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Not like you can't interrupt the spam, shut the heal down and proceed to kill the player. so yeah, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocorras Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Pretty much. All you have to do is put 1 melee on a merc/commando and they're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illwill- Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 It's painfully obvious in all these posts about TM and GR that the OP just doesn't know much about PvP. If you can't recognize the fact that these specs will always get beat in a 1v1 fight and are very susceptible to LOS then you just shouldn't be posting your "insights" for everyone to see. These people are probably just letting themselves get nuked by these classes and came to the determination that if it killed them it must be OP. Just one question: why did you make this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcgregorya Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Clearly. Because I face roll hard with any class in the game but 10x more so with tracer spammers, it must be that my skill as a person and player is just much, MUCH better when playing my friend's character than my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roak Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've never complained about it, but if can happen something is wrong. to save you watching the vid, guy only has tracer on his hotbar, finished 2nd damage overall, top damage on his team and has 8 medals. I have no personal issue with grav/tracer, that doesn't mean it's not dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machazareel Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've never complained about it, but if can happen something is wrong. to save you watching the vid, guy only has tracer on his hotbar, finished 2nd damage overall, top damage on his team and has 8 medals. I have no personal issue with grav/tracer, that doesn't mean it's not dumb. You should pay closer attention to his opponents than to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyron_Deckard Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) If you can pump out maximum DPS uninterrupted by spamming ONE SKILL - that's a flaw in game design. Why do Snipers/Slinggers need to use gimmicky mechanics and rotations while Mercs/commandos get a free pass to face roll medals with one ******* skill? Edited January 29, 2012 by Vyron_Deckard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roak Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You should pay closer attention to his opponents than to him. oh I have, and they're bad, still doesn't make it right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnsTwoThree Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 The damage is overtuned for a filler ability. There's no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssfbistimg Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Pretty much. All you have to do is put 1 melee on a merc/commando and they're done. This Always have a hard time with Marauders on my Commando. They Just attack to fast, and I usually have to use CC and spam heal 1 vs 1. Until help arrives. I hope they plan on adding a collision mechanic to stop them from going through me to cause LOS on my abilities not known as Grav Round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssfbistimg Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've never complained about it, but if can happen something is wrong. to save you watching the vid, guy only has tracer on his hotbar, finished 2nd damage overall, top damage on his team and has 8 medals. I have no personal issue with grav/tracer, that doesn't mean it's not dumb. Clearly the other team was not very good. Cause spamming grav round/tracer missile without following up with your insta cast abilities gimps your character. All you would have had to do is interrupt and LoS him and he would have been useless. So again the team he was playing against was 8 bads who just stood there and let him spam tracer missile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedImage Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 It's painfully obvious in all these posts about TM and GR that the OP just doesn't know much about PvP. If you can't recognize the fact that these specs will always get beat in a 1v1 fight and are very susceptible to LOS then you just shouldn't be posting your "insights" for everyone to see. These people are probably just letting themselves get nuked by these classes and came to the determination that if it killed them it must be OP. Oh please....just stop. It's lolop'd. I don't care how bad the other players are....1 button puts you as top dps on your team, something is out of balance. It's joke you BH/Troops even attempt to defend it. It is going to get nerfed, you can bet on it. It really doesn't matter how many of you post that it's fine as is, or that other players are bad, or that it's only used that way by bad players, blah, blah, blah. It's op'd and it's gettign nerfed. Any nails that stick up in MMO's inevitably get hammered back down in due time. This is just another nail waiting to be hammered down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khremlin Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 If you can pump out maximum DPS uninterrupted by spamming ONE SKILL - that's a flaw in game design. Why do Snipers/Slinggers need to use gimmicky mechanics and rotations while Mercs/commandos get a free pass to face roll medals with one ******* skill? I suppose if you're finding Sniper/OP too complex you could try rolling a merc - fair warning though, you're going to get interrupted, shut down and murdered by anyone who's not afk. Or dumb. Keep smiling, it's only a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeusThunder Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Oh please....just stop. It's lolop'd. I don't care how bad the other players are....1 button puts you as top dps on your team, something is out of balance. It's joke you BH/Troops even attempt to defend it. It is going to get nerfed, you can bet on it. It really doesn't matter how many of you post that it's fine as is, or that other players are bad, or that it's only used that way by bad players, blah, blah, blah. It's op'd and it's gettign nerfed. Any nails that stick up in MMO's inevitably get hammered back down in due time. This is just another nail waiting to be hammered down. Let me make this more simple for you: Class A can not beat any other class in a 1v1 fight. Is class A overpowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 6 second cooldown.....fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khremlin Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 6 second cooldown.....fixed. It's a 3 second cast already. I'm defending and I don't even play one. The real fix is ENEMY CAST BAR BEING MOVABLE, SIZABLE, RE-COLOR-ABLE. Anything in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnsTwoThree Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Let me make this more simple for you: Class A can not beat any other class in a 1v1 fight. Is class A overpowered? Very possibly because the game isn't balanced around 1v1 fights. But if you're implying that Troopers/BH cannot win 1v1 against anybody than you're doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsane Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 6 second cooldown.....fixed. If by fixed you mean arsenal tree is now useless, you're right. gz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeusThunder Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Very possibly because the game isn't balanced around 1v1 fights. But if you're implying that Troopers/BH cannot win 1v1 against anybody than you're doing it wrong. This post is about mercs/commandos in the arsenal tree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggok Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 If you can pump out maximum DPS uninterrupted by spamming ONE SKILL - that's a flaw in game design. Why do Snipers/Slinggers need to use gimmicky mechanics and rotations while Mercs/commandos get a free pass to face roll medals with one ******* skill? LOL, you people just flat out SUCK. Sniper's "gimmicky mechanic" makes it such that they can't be interrupted while mercenaries can be interrupted which is exactly their weakness. This game has the most ignorant and whiniest PvP community of any MMORPG ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzwald Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't complain because I get killed by it, its easy to deal with once you know you are getting hit by it. I complain about how easy it is to get those kinds of numbers by spamming one ability though. As opposed to other classes that have to build up into a rotation or forced to get in melee/los them. Its a matter of effort/effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojas Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Pretty much. All you have to do is put 1 melee on a merc/commando and they're done. Yeah because mercs/commandos can't stun, root, snare, knockback? Put an operative on a merc/commando in huttball and operative is a pinball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecollo Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 The best commando and mercenery goes up against the best marauder/sentinel, the marauder/sentinel will always win, no matter what the circumstances one vs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalDreamz Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've never complained about it, but if can happen something is wrong. to save you watching the vid, guy only has tracer on his hotbar, finished 2nd damage overall, top damage on his team and has 8 medals. I have no personal issue with grav/tracer, that doesn't mean it's not dumb. Oh man my sides were hurting from laughing so hard! That video is gold! It's funny seeing tards defend their class when literally pushing one button is all you need. I believe monkeys can be trained to play this way as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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