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guard needs to be nerfed

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guard needs to be nerfed

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-Mythix-
12.19.2012 , 01:24 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by -Holmes View Post
Ignore the tank, hammer healer. Healer will heal himself while tank will slowly but surely die. Unless you're telling me that a tank can out-dps you, and kill you faster than you can kill a guarded healer.
/end of thread

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paowee
12.19.2012 , 01:37 PM | #62
Game isn't balanced between 2v2 iirc. OP is complaining because his

DPS | Healer combo cant kill the enemy's
TANK | Healer combo.

lol...

As people have posted before..

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Quote: Originally Posted by -Holmes View Post
Ignore the tank, hammer healer. Healer will heal himself while tank will slowly but surely die. Unless you're telling me that a tank can out-dps you, and kill you faster than you can kill a guarded healer.
/end of thread
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PowerReaper
12.19.2012 , 02:43 PM | #63
Guard Overpowered? lmfao...
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MasterFeign
12.19.2012 , 03:06 PM | #64
Wow... taking the one thing that makes a tank, a tank in pvp... and wanting it nerfed... That makes sense...

Why don't we just get rid of the tank class all together...

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JustinxDuff
12.19.2012 , 03:10 PM | #65
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Ignore the tank, hammer healer. Healer will heal himself while tank will slowly but surely die. Unless you're telling me that a tank can out-dps you, and kill you faster than you can kill a guarded healer.
If only it was that easy.
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Philelectric
12.19.2012 , 03:15 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
Awww another ignorant poster who thinks everyone is smash spec, how cute. I need to start posting screenshots of my spec to shut you people up.

Sorry but guard is OP as hell. I roll in dps gear in a hybrid build with a pocket healer and we can waltz into a 5v2 and survive for WAY longer than we should. Between bubble stuns, taunts and guard we just stand there and laugh. Heck, my healer even has time to do multiple emotes and still keep both me and him healed.

Unlike most people who just want things to stay broken, I like things to be fixed and take some actual thought. As it stands right now, tank/heal combo is stupid strong and guard needs to be reduced to 30% or stop letting taunts stack with guard.

Oh and for the record cuz im tired of people going "derp smash spec" (a spec thats not even good to begin with. Combat is way more deadly than focus spec) http://i.imgur.com/8Pw7I.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/eGEmI.jpg

Ignorance is bliss though. Stop assuming everyone is smash because it only makes you look ignorant.
Lets do some mathematic.

Here we assume every1 will have equal gear on my scenarios.

2 decent or better DPS walk on a decent or better healer, the healer WILL die.

3 decent or better DPS walk on a decent or better healer and tank, heal+tank win since...they have heals

4 decent or better DPS walk on a decent or better healer and tank, the dps should win. Why? 4 dps will easily out dps the tank's dps+ the guard included while they interupt the healer and maybe CC the tank.

So winning 5v2 happen only if you fight the worse class of the game or you outgear them or you fight a bunch of terribad players pvping for the 1rst time...or when you are lying about what really happened and try to get a nerf on something you cannot beat.

Solution: Nerf operative and buff smoshkeys.
Guarding a healer is not only the job the the skill ''guard''. It is also your job to stay around the healer to be a plague for the people attacking the healer.

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Sleprock
12.19.2012 , 05:11 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
Maybe if you would learn to read, I am a tank. I always run tank spec with a healer. The difference is I don't cling to brain dead concepts like everyone else does. When I see something that is stupid I call out on it. Me and my healer consistently surviving 5v2 situations stands out as being pretty brain dead stupid, especially with me wearing dps gear and in a hybrid tank spec. Guard that stacks with taunts is too strong, anyone with half a brain can see there is an issue with it, but everyone wants to be OP instead of having balance. It's the same reason I still have a scoundrel and haven't bothered rolling a shadow.
I didn't feel like reading your whole pointless and stupid post the moment it said Nerf guards.

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ArchangelLBC
12.19.2012 , 05:53 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by NoTomorrow View Post
No, the game will be balanced with plenty of opportunities for specialist classes to shine instead of having a generalist good at every WZ objective.
My commando will become no more viable in PVP ranked or unranked if they nerf shadows. My shadow will then become useless leaving me with no good PVP class.

Sorry but this little crusade of yours is absolutely idiotic, has destroyed any semblance of credibility you once had, and you should frankly be ashamed of yourself.

You're jealous because they have OPTIONS? I don't even get your beef.
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AlyxDinas
12.19.2012 , 06:48 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by JustinxDuff View Post
lol yea no
Haha. You're telling me that hammer on the guard mark and the tank at the same time isn't giving you the relevant output to make an appreciable dent? LOL, yeah...no. There's plenty of viable tactics. The fact that could cannot manage them nor can you seem to manage to find a group of people to coordinate with is no fault of the system in place.
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Aaoogaa
12.19.2012 , 07:13 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
either stop letting taunts/bubbles stack with guards or reduce guard to 20-30%. Healer/Tank combo is straight up stupid right now. Takes 3-4 dps to deal with a 2 team combo and its dumb.
CC healer and kill the tank, then kill the healer. Taunt does not reduce damage on the tank, and guard does not split damage from the tank. If you cannot do this then your team is undergeared and destined to lose anyway.
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