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Darevsool
06.19.2019 , 07:49 AM | #11
I don't do warzones very often, but when I do, I almost never see anyone bothering with, or maybe even knowing how to do, objectives.
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06.20.2019 , 09:34 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Darevsool View Post
I don't do warzones very often, but when I do, I almost never see anyone bothering with, or maybe even knowing how to do, objectives.
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06.20.2019 , 09:42 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Visorknight View Post
Yes, exactly how it should be for pve players. We can agree that the patch greatly boost pve players rate of getting conquest points. so why not also help pvp players by boosting their conquest points as well by adding objectives during a match? Maybe this will motivate players to actually contribute more rather than farming 8 medals and then afk one corner as well to get the cxp rewards at the end of match.
not removal just reduced....
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06.20.2019 , 10:01 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Visorknight View Post
Yes, exactly how it should be for pve players. We can agree that the patch greatly boost pve players rate of getting conquest points. so why not also help pvp players by boosting their conquest points as well by adding objectives during a match? Maybe this will motivate players to actually contribute more rather than farming 8 medals and then afk one corner as well to get the cxp rewards at the end of match.
The easiest solution to the pvp problem is to make the 8 medals only apply once the match ends.
Then to stop people standing in the corner, you either get the points if you win or you half the points for a loss or buff the points for a win.
Anyone of those works as an incentive to try and win and you only win if you play the objectives.
IMO, medals are too easy to get for doing very little in the match. The current 8 medals and then being able to leave the match is an utter joke.

I would like to see them buff the points for a win over them nerfing the loss. But I would also like to see the medal system updated and setup to reflect the individual WZ maps and objectives and not be generic for every map.
Then medals could be rewarded based on actual contribution to the win and not who farmed the most dps.
That means the solo person who selflessly guards all match and doesn’t lose the node to attacks would get as many medals as the person farming numbers.
You might also get more medal points for kills or damage done the closer you are to objectives, wether attacking or defending. If you are too far away, any medals you may have gotten for a big hit or heal wouldn’t apply. It would encourage people to not run all over the map like headless chickens to death match.

This could be taken one step further by having the conquest points scale based on your contribution (with revised medal system). Which would then be multiplied based on wether you win or lose. Under some circumstances, it would even be possible for someone on the losing team to get more medals = conquest points than someone who didn’t contribute enough on the winning team.

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TheCardinal
06.21.2019 , 12:01 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Visorknight View Post
Well, for pve players, all they need is to do CZ 198 weekly + home planet heroics + capital planets heroics under 30mins = 15k conquest points. For pvp players, 6 warzones matches later and an hour later, we have not hit even close to the 15k conquest points
You failed to take into account that this week ain't 2x XP.

EACH Weekly give you a wooping 500 or so CQXP. While you get 20K GC XP for it.

Each mission I've done on a few char give you around 500 GC XP and 291 CQXP.
The problem ain't the NPC's a normal one gives around 2-4 CQXP.

For me with 100 Legacy XP buff, 70% Stronghold buff it takes me.

WEEKLY DONE
CZ-198
Ossus
Yavin 4
Blackhole
Ziost

At least to get close to or to make the personal goal for conquest
Mind you that all those are
Ossus = 10 Mission
CZ-198 = 5 Mission
Yavin 4 = 8 Missions
Blackhole = 5 Missions
Ziost = 5 Missions
Some of them include H2+ in there weekly's too.

So there is A LOT of running around and time used up to reach ONE char's conquest goal.

The main issue I have that is the WEEKLY give me 491 CQXP EVEN if I get 20+K GC XP
While a heroic give me like 500 GC XP and 291 CQ XP.
See the difference!!!!!!
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Visorknight
06.21.2019 , 03:31 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by TheCardinal View Post
You failed to take into account that this week ain't 2x XP.

EACH Weekly give you a wooping 500 or so CQXP. While you get 20K GC XP for it.

Each mission I've done on a few char give you around 500 GC XP and 291 CQXP.
The problem ain't the NPC's a normal one gives around 2-4 CQXP.

For me with 100 Legacy XP buff, 70% Stronghold buff it takes me.

WEEKLY DONE
CZ-198
Ossus
Yavin 4
Blackhole
Ziost

At least to get close to or to make the personal goal for conquest
Mind you that all those are
Ossus = 10 Mission
CZ-198 = 5 Mission
Yavin 4 = 8 Missions
Blackhole = 5 Missions
Ziost = 5 Missions
Some of them include H2+ in there weekly's too.

So there is A LOT of running around and time used up to reach ONE char's conquest goal.

The main issue I have that is the WEEKLY give me 491 CQXP EVEN if I get 20+K GC XP
While a heroic give me like 500 GC XP and 291 CQ XP.
See the difference!!!!!!
I did this week with the full 150% stronghold bonus on my alts. it is still roughly the same to cap the 15k conquest points. Cz 198 + capital planet heroics + home planet heroics. Although i dont stealth through any mobs instead i kill everything i see normally as it is still fast enough.

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TheCardinal
06.21.2019 , 03:44 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Visorknight View Post
I did this week with the full 150% stronghold bonus on my alts. it is still roughly the same to cap the 15k conquest points. Cz 198 + capital planet heroics + home planet heroics. Although i dont stealth through any mobs instead i kill everything i see normally as it is still fast enough.
None I've done them so far have stealth.

but I only have 70% stronghold bonus.

My issue is more that the WEEKLY give you around 500 XP, while the GC XP you get is anything from 6K too 20K
Still the CQ XP stay around 500 XP.

you are WAY better off doing Heroics for the CQ then bother doing ANY Weekly since that Weekly in it self give you crap CQ XP if you compare it to GC XP.
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casirabit
06.21.2019 , 04:29 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by TheCardinal View Post
You failed to take into account that this week ain't 2x XP.

EACH Weekly give you a wooping 500 or so CQXP. While you get 20K GC XP for it.

Each mission I've done on a few char give you around 500 GC XP and 291 CQXP.
The problem ain't the NPC's a normal one gives around 2-4 CQXP.

For me with 100 Legacy XP buff, 70% Stronghold buff it takes me.

WEEKLY DONE
CZ-198
Ossus
Yavin 4
Blackhole
Ziost

At least to get close to or to make the personal goal for conquest
Mind you that all those are
Ossus = 10 Mission
CZ-198 = 5 Mission
Yavin 4 = 8 Missions
Blackhole = 5 Missions
Ziost = 5 Missions
Some of them include H2+ in there weekly's too.

So there is A LOT of running around and time used up to reach ONE char's conquest goal.

The main issue I have that is the WEEKLY give me 491 CQXP EVEN if I get 20+K GC XP
While a heroic give me like 500 GC XP and 291 CQ XP.
See the difference!!!!!!
Ziost is also different in that there are maybe 5 npc's to kill-4 of the droids (unless you get one you don't have to kill) and the droid inside the last daily so we get even less conquest points there for killing mobs as there are at the max 5 to kill so that also figures in the conquest points. (I have the 150% bonus) but it took me longer this week than last week.
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TheCardinal
06.21.2019 , 06:56 AM | #19
My point being this.

1 Mission or Heroic = 300 CQ XP or there around.
1 Weekly Mission, and I mean the WEEKLY mission only, IE, the one you get for doing them all.
around 500 CQ XP, Regardless of how much GC XP you gain from them.

So there is NO incentive for a player at GC level 300 to go after a weekly since that will give you 500 where's you do a heroic give you 300.

Regardless IF said heroic give me 248 GC XP the Yavin 4 did on 1 char.
The CQ XP still staid at 291 CQ XP.

The CQ XP do NOT scale with the amount of GC XP you get.

I have legacy bonus 100%
Stronghold bonus = 70%

Point is, it DOES not matter!

The one who got the 248 GC / 291 CQ
Have full 10% boost for XP
Level 300 already

The discrepancy is in the value of a singel mission vs the reward for the weekly mission you do.
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MacCleoud
06.21.2019 , 08:02 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by TheCardinal View Post
My point being this.

1 Mission or Heroic = 300 CQ XP or there around.
1 Weekly Mission, and I mean the WEEKLY mission only, IE, the one you get for doing them all.
around 500 CQ XP, Regardless of how much GC XP you gain from them.

So there is NO incentive for a player at GC level 300 to go after a weekly since that will give you 500 where's you do a heroic give you 300.

Regardless IF said heroic give me 248 GC XP the Yavin 4 did on 1 char.
The CQ XP still staid at 291 CQ XP.

The CQ XP do NOT scale with the amount of GC XP you get.

I have legacy bonus 100%
Stronghold bonus = 70%

Point is, it DOES not matter!

The one who got the 248 GC / 291 CQ
Have full 10% boost for XP
Level 300 already

The discrepancy is in the value of a singel mission vs the reward for the weekly mission you do.
Conquest XP is based on base XP. Command XP has nothing to do with Conquest XP at all. The XP for a single heroic vs the XP for a weekly are very close, with the weekly being slightly higher. The weekly XP quest is just a reward for doing the planetary heroics each week. The reason the command reward is so high on them is as an incentive to actually complete all the missions, not just the quick and easy ones.

Your normal XP bonuses and your stronghold bonus is all that will matter on how much conquest you get.

The incentive for a character at GC300 to do the weekly is that the weekly is still 4-6 command crates for gear for alts.