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Referral Links and Liars


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ChirenGuinn
10.19.2017 , 07:34 AM | #1
I've been playing the game for a couple years now, and have been enjoying the game. Every now and then, particularly on the beginning planets and the Spacedocks, people will repeatedly ask in general chat for someone to use their referral link. They say that if they do so, the people who use it will be paid X amount of Credits as thanks.

I recently allowed myself to be tricked by one such bribery. The person in question used a character with what I should have seen as an obvious throwaway name, this person offered ten million credits to use his referral link. Rather than be properly suspicious of what in hindsight is an obvious ploy, I accepted and went offline to use his referral link. When I returned to the game, I discovered that this person blocked my character to prevent further communication, and to avoid paying what was promised.

My own foolishness aside, I have been hearing about this problem a lot lately from other players, particularly new players. This kind of greedy, malicious behavior only serves to damage trust in the community. Players should not scam each other, but neither should we indulge their actions. I'm writing this post so that others can use my experience as an example, and to let others who have been scammed this way know that they are not alone in the silly mistake.

The only reason this behavior is not actionable, is because there is no negative consequence to the person being tricked. You don't lose credits, items, or anything of value; the only this harmed is that player's ability to trust other players in the game. I hope this thread proves helpful to at least some people out there.

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Eshvara
10.19.2017 , 07:37 AM | #2
It's unfortunate that this happened to you, you should report it to support if you haven't already. Please don't put people's names in your forum post, it gets you in trouble as it isn't allowed.
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xordevoreaux
10.19.2017 , 07:44 AM | #3
I've no clue how BW would receive this idea...but how about making referrals tradable through the trade window?
Put the referral in the player's collection or another way to generate a token for it. Player A places the token in the trade window, Player B enters the requested amount of credits/gear/whatever and boom, both click trade, fair and fair.
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Gearmasterblitz
10.19.2017 , 07:44 AM | #4
If anything, "every now and then" is a gross understatement. On Harbinger at least, every time I go to a planet from about Nar Shadaa or lower level, there is at least one person (often times more than one) that is spamming chat, no matter what time of day it is. This seems to be the latest scam, most likely because the scammers rarely if ever get punished for it. I don't know that they don't but considering I always see the same people spamming the chat I'm fairly certain nothing ever happens to them.

It sucks what happened, but as was said above you need to remove the name from your post. Naming and shaming will get you punished on the forums, and this topic will be deleted.

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Icykill_
10.19.2017 , 07:55 AM | #5
You do realise that most of those people are Credit farmers or part of the credit chain... Anyone that offers you credits to click their referral is lying and a scammer.
If people want to click a referral in a forum signature... thatís cool and a nice surprise... but itís good Bioware donít allow people to jump on here are solicit it for credits.
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DeVanagloris
10.19.2017 , 07:56 AM | #6
First, as others have said, naming and shaming is not allowed. One can agree or disagree with such policy, but those are the rules.

Second, these kind of offers are happening all the time everywhere. They are spammed a lot in starting planets and the fleet, but i've also seen them in planets such as Voss, Corellia or Taris. They are ALL scams, i've never had a doubt about it.

Third, if you want to get into that, ask the scammer to pay up front. If not all, at least half the credits. If he refuses, then dont accept the deal. I've done this several times, and every single time they refuse to pay up front. They want to scam but want to avoid the risk of getting scammed too. Fine, they wont get my cc.

Fourth, you fell to the scam because of your own greed. It's fine if you wanna call them out on that, but dont forget you also tried to take advantage of a game mechanism in order to get credits, hence your own greed drove you into the scam. Therefore, one could say you actually learned a lesson you wont forget.
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Aeneas_Falco
10.19.2017 , 08:27 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Icykill_ View Post
You do realise that most of those people are Credit farmers or part of the credit chain... Anyone that offers you credits to click their referral is lying and a scammer.
If people want to click a referral in a forum signature... thatís cool and a nice surprise... but itís good Bioware people donít allow to jump on here are solicit it for credits.
While I agree with the first part of your post, in that many (but not all) of the scammers are credit sellers, the second part is not true. There are a lot of players who do offer to pay people to click their referral link and then deliver on that promise.

It's partly why the scammers are successful. They're able to hook people probably because some of their marks know that there are legitimate trades for referral link clicks. If no one paid and every Gen Chat ad was a scam, they'd get less takers.

If anyone is considering clicking on a stranger's referral link for credits...

1. Get him or her to agree to half up front. If he or she refuses walk, even if it potentially means losing out on a genuine offer for credits. The risk isn't worthwhile otherwise.

2. Know the going rate for credit referrals. 1 to 3 million is far more typical. If someone is offering a lot more than that it most likely falls into the realm of "too good to be true."

3. View the character before doing the trade. Does it look like a player who has actually been playing the game, or a throwaway character created with a token? If it's the latter, walk.

4. Are the only achievements related to resource gathering and crafting? Red flag for a credit seller. Walk.

5. Know that scams aren't just limited to credit sellers. See point #1. The person buying referral link clinks reaps the biggest rewards, so you should insist on that person taking on the risk.

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xordevoreaux
10.19.2017 , 08:31 AM | #8
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4. Are the only achievements related to resource gathering and crafting? Red flag for a credit seller. Walk.
Confused. Why would a credit seller, i.e., someone who wants real-world currency on a gold seller web site in return for in-game credits, want to give players in-game credits? Seems counter productive to their purpose. They'd be giving away the commodity they're trying to sell real-world.
Referral Link: http://www.swtor.com/r/F4XbCd
In English, a leading X on a word is pronounced like a Z. (zorDEVoro).

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Aeneas_Falco
10.19.2017 , 08:35 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by xordevoreaux View Post
Confused. Why would a credit seller, i.e., someone who wants real-world currency on a gold seller web site in return for in-game credits, want to give players in-game credits? Seems counter productive to their purpose. They'd be giving away the commodity they're trying to sell real-world.
They get monthly cartel coin grants for each click which are in turn used to purchase items or packs from the Cartel Market which are then sold on the GTN for millions. The amount of credits earned from that (whether the buyer is a credit seller or not) is much more than what they pay people to click to their link, which is why some people do it.

Also the credit sellers may not necessarily deliver on the promise to pay. They could very well talk a person into clicking their referral link, and then disappear after. It's quite possible (though not certain, since douchey behavior isn't exlusive to credit sellers) that was who snookered the OP.

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ChirenGuinn
10.19.2017 , 08:36 AM | #10
I appreciate the feedback everyone, and I've made the necessary adjustment to my original post. And as I already said, I already know that I should have been suspicious of the offer, but I was in a good mood and didn't feel, at the time, that the person was phishing for a sucker.