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More off the wall lightsaber styles please

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More off the wall lightsaber styles please

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Tenacity
07.16.2018 , 11:56 AM | #1
I'm a big fan of the lightsaber pikes in particular, but we still only have two of them available (senya's lightsaber pike and the other rusty looking one), and neither are currently available for purchase from the cartel market. Definitely think we need to see more of those added.

Same goes for the vented lightsabers (like kylo ren's) - there's only two of them, and the one available on the cartel market right now is at a ridiculous price. Why arent variants of these available via gameplay?

Would like to see more shoto-style sabers as well, I like the idea of a dagger-style lightsaber and the shoto is the closest we can get right now.
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07.16.2018 , 08:53 PM | #2
The "exotic" lightsabers are rare and expensive because they are meant as a specialty thing. If BW suddenly came out witha cheap version, it would lose some of that special factor, and people who paid full price for the originals would cry foul. (speaking as someone who has none of them)

Having an gameplay way of getting them would be cool, but expect it to be pretty extreme.

As for shotos, we can't really get them any shorter, as they wouldn't work in cut scenes.
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TrixxieTriss
07.16.2018 , 09:58 PM | #3
A Lightwhip as used by Lumiya is a favourite of mine and would love to see a version of it in swtor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightwhip

“Lumiya studied in secret as Lord Vader's Shadow Hand, she also served as one of the Emperor's Hands—Force-trained assassins who answered to Palpatine himself. She embarked on a pilgrimage to the world of Ziost, during which she crafted her own lightwhip”

“One of the earliest known wielders of the lightwhip was the Sith Lady Githany, who was active approximately a millennium before the Battle of Yavin. According to the Sith Blademaster of the day, Kas'im, she wielded the weapon not out of any advantages it presented in combat, but to exploit its rarity and unfamiliarity with most duelists. Githany wielded the weapon up until her death in the final battle of Ruusan”

”During their mission to Ord Cestus during the Clone Wars, Obi-Wan Kenobi fabricated a lightwhip for use by both himself and Kit Fisto. This weapon was based on the one wielded by Ona Nobis, and first saw use during a mock duel between himself and Fisto, with Fisto masquerading as a member of Count Dooku's Dark Acolytes in order to fool the Cestus government into believing that the Separatists were interfering in their affairs. Towards the end of the same mission, Kenobi led the charge into the Cestus Cybernetics factory, wielding the lightwhip as a secondary weapon alongside his lightsaber”

As you can see there is precedence for this type of “lightsaber” in the extended Star Wars Universe. But there is also a Disney canon version of it too. Anakin Skywalker vs Count Dooku - Whip vs Lightsaber (The Clone Wars Season 4)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LZCAoBgyE98

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Andryah
07.16.2018 , 10:05 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
A Lightwhip as used by Lumiya is a favourite of mine and would love to see a version of it in swtor
I would love one too.. but I very much doubt we will get one.... because the animations would not work all that well with a whip. They would have to actually adjust the character animations to make it work.. which I very much doubt would happen.
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FlameYOL
07.16.2018 , 10:05 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
A Lightwhip as used by Lumiya is a favourite of mine and would love to see a version of it in swtor

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightwhip

“Lumiya studied in secret as Lord Vader's Shadow Hand, she also served as one of the Emperor's Hands—Force-trained assassins who answered to Palpatine himself. She embarked on a pilgrimage to the world of Ziost, during which she crafted her own lightwhip”

“One of the earliest known wielders of the lightwhip was the Sith Lady Githany, who was active approximately a millennium before the Battle of Yavin. According to the Sith Blademaster of the day, Kas'im, she wielded the weapon not out of any advantages it presented in combat, but to exploit its rarity and unfamiliarity with most duelists. Githany wielded the weapon up until her death in the final battle of Ruusan”

”During their mission to Ord Cestus during the Clone Wars, Obi-Wan Kenobi fabricated a lightwhip for use by both himself and Kit Fisto. This weapon was based on the one wielded by Ona Nobis, and first saw use during a mock duel between himself and Fisto, with Fisto masquerading as a member of Count Dooku's Dark Acolytes in order to fool the Cestus government into believing that the Separatists were interfering in their affairs. Towards the end of the same mission, Kenobi led the charge into the Cestus Cybernetics factory, wielding the lightwhip as a secondary weapon alongside his lightsaber”

As you can see there is precedence for this type of “lightsaber” in the extended Star Wars Universe. But there is also a Disney canon version of it too. Anakin Skywalker vs Count Dooku - Whip vs Lightsaber (The Clone Wars Season 4)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LZCAoBgyE98
Me too. I'd loved if they had built The Sith Sorcerer/Jedi Sage with a Lightwhip in mind, it would've been awesome but alas it wasn't the case.
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Andryah
07.16.2018 , 10:19 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by FlameYOL View Post
Me too. I'd loved if they had built The Sith Sorcerer/Jedi Sage with a Lightwhip in mind, it would've been awesome but alas it wasn't the case.
I played a Reaver in DAoC a lot. It was my favorite class in that MMO.. both for it's use of a whip (Flex weapon with choice of crush or slash damage) as well as medium shield and class defining skills that leveraged the whip very well as well as dexterity stats such that the class had both great offensive capabilities as well as good defense too.

But yeah... they made the class from the ground up for Flex weapons. SWTOR would have to do some major rework of one or more classes to accommodate a whip style weapon in a manner that was not a joke.
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TrixxieTriss
07.17.2018 , 12:30 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I would love one too.. but I very much doubt we will get one.... because the animations would not work all that well with a whip. They would have to actually adjust the character animations to make it work.. which I very much doubt would happen.
Agreed.
If they were going to do it, I believe they might have been able to do around 3.0 or before.
When they had the funds and possibly an opening to add a new class to the game.
It’s extremely unlikely they would attempt this now, but it doesn’t hurt to hope

I have to wonder if a modification to Assassin/shadow saber animations would work. There is a lot of spinning and the weapons are long. The spins could look like a slash - curling - whirling affect before a hit.

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FlameYOL
07.17.2018 , 07:36 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I played a Reaver in DAoC a lot. It was my favorite class in that MMO.. both for it's use of a whip (Flex weapon with choice of crush or slash damage) as well as medium shield and class defining skills that leveraged the whip very well as well as dexterity stats such that the class had both great offensive capabilities as well as good defense too.

But yeah... they made the class from the ground up for Flex weapons. SWTOR would have to do some major rework of one or more classes to accommodate a whip style weapon in a manner that was not a joke.
Yeah it's just a pipe dream for me really, they'd have to complete re-work the Sage/Sorcerer to fit in that, not to mention rework the animations as lightsaber whips work very differently than the standard lightsaber.
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lordbard
07.17.2018 , 09:50 AM | #9
I would just be tickled if the assassin/shadow could wield a single-blade lightsaber instead of the double-blade.

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Goreshaga
07.17.2018 , 10:43 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by FlameYOL View Post
Yeah it's just a pipe dream for me really, they'd have to complete re-work the Sage/Sorcerer to fit in that, not to mention rework the animations as lightsaber whips work very differently than the standard lightsaber.
Don't sorcerers and sages have only 1 lighsaber related ability though ?
If i'm not mistaken, then giving them the whip would only require to change 1 single ability for it to work with them.

Could be tricky fot the KOTFE/ET fighting cutscenes though but considering how ridiculous these cutscenes look with a saberstaff anyways...