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F2P and Recruit Gear.....

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F2P and Recruit Gear.....

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AdrianDmitruk
01.09.2013 , 05:15 AM | #21
As I remember, the recruit set cost something like a total of 270k back in the day.

F2P currency cap is what, 350k?

If I was F2P, yeah I'd balk at the thought of spending 77% of my max currency limit too. Especially considering how badly recruit gear sucks. The least BW could've done was give it the endurance of the phased-out BM set so maybe there is some hope of surviving a double smash if a healer catches it in time. I can understand the logic of needing to gear grind to get the big hits and numbers, but jeez at least give the entry level a shot at surviving more than 2 GCDs.

But since BW insists on adding new tiers of gear without updating recruit gear to keep the gap at least somewhat manageable, there really isn't much point in getting recruit gear UNLESS it's handed to you for free. As a sub, I don't want people with lvl 40 greens in my warzone, but I don't want people in recruit gear in my warzone, either. Yes recruit is better than the level 40 greens but the numbers I have to heal through in warzones have grown large enough that the practical difference isn't that great--either is a waste of a heal. And the restrictions on F2P gear make this sub's warzones far less enjoyable when I'm stuck with them for my 4 pugs, Force forbid I have to solo queue and risk getting 6-7 ftpers on my team. I consider BM a bare minimum, but we don't have that anymore...

And what self-respecting F2Per would EVER buy a wz pass after "sampling" a roflstomp because the best gear he can equip (and let's face it, bantha dung is more useful in PVP, maybe you can craft it into a stun grenade) under the restrictions COST 77% OF THE CREDITS HE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE?

If recruit gear is to remain as crappy as it is presently, it needs to be free to all, including f2pers. It's so crappy it simply isn't worth expending a f2per's scarce resources on.
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Thoniei
01.09.2013 , 07:39 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Chlomamf View Post
How long did you say you've been PvPing for? Cuz from what I hear it sounds like you've just started.
Without logging in to check I think my main is at valor rank 68. Sometimes I pvp because I actually want to have a well balanced match. That's not going to happen if we're in pvp gear and the enemy team is wearing 40 greens. I would much rather lose a match 0-10 than win 600-0.

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Spoletta
01.09.2013 , 07:52 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by AdrianDmitruk View Post
As I remember, the recruit set cost something like a total of 270k back in the day.

F2P currency cap is what, 350k?

If I was F2P, yeah I'd balk at the thought of spending 77% of my max currency limit too. Especially considering how badly recruit gear sucks. The least BW could've done was give it the endurance of the phased-out BM set so maybe there is some hope of surviving a double smash if a healer catches it in time. I can understand the logic of needing to gear grind to get the big hits and numbers, but jeez at least give the entry level a shot at surviving more than 2 GCDs.

But since BW insists on adding new tiers of gear without updating recruit gear to keep the gap at least somewhat manageable, there really isn't much point in getting recruit gear UNLESS it's handed to you for free. As a sub, I don't want people with lvl 40 greens in my warzone, but I don't want people in recruit gear in my warzone, either. Yes recruit is better than the level 40 greens but the numbers I have to heal through in warzones have grown large enough that the practical difference isn't that great--either is a waste of a heal. And the restrictions on F2P gear make this sub's warzones far less enjoyable when I'm stuck with them for my 4 pugs, Force forbid I have to solo queue and risk getting 6-7 ftpers on my team. I consider BM a bare minimum, but we don't have that anymore...

And what self-respecting F2Per would EVER buy a wz pass after "sampling" a roflstomp because the best gear he can equip (and let's face it, bantha dung is more useful in PVP, maybe you can craft it into a stun grenade) under the restrictions COST 77% OF THE CREDITS HE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE?

If recruit gear is to remain as crappy as it is presently, it needs to be free to all, including f2pers. It's so crappy it simply isn't worth expending a f2per's scarce resources on.
Funny right? Now take into consideration that they pay everything 25% more, so the recruit gear is actually over budget for them.
Recruit gear should be given to f2p, and it should be 3 ratings behind WH. Now they can get a serious taste of how pvp really is.

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POPsi
01.09.2013 , 08:02 AM | #24
oh boy yesterday we had a f2per in a wz with us (he admitted it after asking why the heck he is in full greens with zero hp)... well, he managed to do like 20 k damage

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AdrianDmitruk
01.09.2013 , 08:26 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Spoletta View Post
Funny right? Now take into consideration that they pay everything 25% more, so the recruit gear is actually over budget for them.
Recruit gear should be given to f2p, and it should be 3 ratings behind WH. Now they can get a serious taste of how pvp really is.
You've GOT to be kidding. This is far worse than even I thought. Upon returning to this game I re-subbed so I could get my PVP fix.

The fail is strong with this cashshop.
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GARhenus
01.09.2013 , 07:35 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by AdrianDmitruk View Post
As I remember, the recruit set cost something like a total of 270k back in the day.

F2P currency cap is what, 350k?

If I was F2P, yeah I'd balk at the thought of spending 77% of my max currency limit too. Especially considering how badly recruit gear sucks. The least BW could've done was give it the endurance of the phased-out BM set so maybe there is some hope of surviving a double smash if a healer catches it in time. I can understand the logic of needing to gear grind to get the big hits and numbers, but jeez at least give the entry level a shot at surviving more than 2 GCDs.
an f2p can hit the credit cap after 1 day in belsavis since the only thing they're not getting there is the chests (they still recieve the mod rewards and the full credit rewards. They can literally buy all their recruit mk 2 items over a weekend. The rest is just good old wz comm farming

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Washingtoon
01.09.2013 , 08:58 PM | #27
Hold on, so theyre not getting recruit gear and they cant use purple mods unless they pay for the unlock? Wow, that's awesome...in the worst possible way.

On another note, Tera goes completely F2P with no restrictions.