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MigkadeGulseak
11.17.2019 , 08:34 AM | #1
With the amount there is to do, it feels weird that our characters still look exactly the same as they did at the beginning of the story e.g. my Jedi Master looks the same as he did as a Padawan. Adding something minor like wrinkles would add detail and show that they don't look perfect after all that they've done .

I suggest that there is an option to toggle aging on/off like dark side corruption so that it's optional for those who wouldn't want it.
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vingmotor
11.17.2019 , 09:04 AM | #2
have been asking for this for a long time. guess they want us to be children. easier that way. even if 87% is old of the playerbase.
wrinkles whould be cool. and new faces while there at it.

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11.17.2019 , 01:28 PM | #3
as long as they age everyone, including your romance...
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11.17.2019 , 02:22 PM | #4
Just to be clear on this: how much aging do you think characters need? Bear in mind that it's about ten, maybe eleven, years in-game time from the beginning on Korriban/Ord Mantell/Hutta/Tython to the end of Onslaught. Kaliyo should be about 39, maybe 40, instead of 29 (as noted in the Agent's codex entry), for example.
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xordevoreaux
11.17.2019 , 02:29 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by SteveTheCynic View Post
Just to be clear on this: how much aging do you think characters need? Bear in mind that it's about ten, maybe eleven, years in-game time from the beginning on Korriban/Ord Mantell/Hutta/Tython to the end of Onslaught. Kaliyo should be about 39, maybe 40, instead of 29 (as noted in the Agent's codex entry), for example.
Well if someone's role-playing Sheev in the latest movie, no amount of wrinkles would be enough.

Note: I read the thread title wrong, thought it said "Add Cosmic Aging" and then realized in some cases there probably isn't a difference.
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11.17.2019 , 02:43 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by SteveTheCynic View Post
Just to be clear on this: how much aging do you think characters need? Bear in mind that it's about ten, maybe eleven, years in-game time from the beginning on Korriban/Ord Mantell/Hutta/Tython to the end of Onslaught. Kaliyo should be about 39, maybe 40, instead of 29 (as noted in the Agent's codex entry), for example.
Chronologically it's been about 13 years.

Which means biologically for the PCs it's been about 8 years.


So this puts our characters in their mid-upper 20s. Little early for wrinkles. The physical differences in age in this range are typically quite subtle, and would be largely impossible with the texture system we have.
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11.17.2019 , 02:48 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by MadDutchman View Post
Chronologically it's been about 13 years.

Which means biologically for the PCs it's been about 8 years.


So this puts our characters in their mid-upper 20s. Little early for wrinkles. The physical differences in age in this range are typically quite subtle, and would be largely impossible with the texture system we have.
You're assuming that all people play all their characters as if they're young padawans. We've white hair and beards in the game, so if you want to role-play an old grizzled wizard from the very beginning, and how many screen shots do you want to see of NPCs in the chapter stories with a ton of wrinkles? Bring on the wrinkles!
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11.17.2019 , 05:19 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by xordevoreaux View Post
You're assuming that all people play all their characters as if they're young padawans. We've white hair and beards in the game, so if you want to role-play an old grizzled wizard from the very beginning, and how many screen shots do you want to see of NPCs in the chapter stories with a ton of wrinkles? Bring on the wrinkles!
The Jedi classes are stated as being young. SW as well.

That being said, really any age bracket is not going to see drastic aging over only 8 years

I got no objection to adding wrinkles or other aging options to the appearance designer (people can suspend disbelief and role-play whatever they want then. And more options is always good), but having a dynamic aging system for only 8 years? Too much effort, too little reward (assuming such subtle differences can even be expressed by the textures)
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11.17.2019 , 07:10 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by MadDutchman View Post
The Jedi classes are stated as being young. SW as well.

That being said, really any age bracket is not going to see drastic aging over only 8 years

I got no objection to adding wrinkles or other aging options to the appearance designer (people can suspend disbelief and role-play whatever they want then. And more options is always good), but having a dynamic aging system for only 8 years? Too much effort, too little reward (assuming such subtle differences can even be expressed by the textures)
Actually! It's been 14 years, not 8. We start in 10 ATC namely and the current year ingame is 24 ATC. But 14 years is indeed not that much time to add a lot of wrinkles.

That said, it would be nice to have appearance customization options that can add wrinkles to our characters for RP purposes.
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SteveTheCynic
11.18.2019 , 01:08 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
That said, it would be nice to have appearance customization options that can add wrinkles to our characters for RP purposes.
Bingo! *This* is the reason for it, not the passage of in-game narrative time.
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