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Back after a break. What should I do?

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RafaelPeretz
11.12.2019 , 06:10 AM | #1
As the title says: I'm completely lost after a break from the game.

I mained a Sin/Shadow back then, but invested some time in multiple toons: Sent/Mara and Guard/Jug and Slinger/Sniper.

Right now I'm with a lot of responsabilities IRL, so I whant to pick wisely one the above mentioned classes to play, since I don't have a lot of time to play on a daily basis.

What you guys recommend, based on the current meta? And what should I do to get geared (can I get geared playing only PvP)?
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Banderal
11.12.2019 , 06:29 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by RafaelPeretz View Post
As the title says: I'm completely lost after a break from the game.

I mained a Sin/Shadow back then, but invested some time in multiple toons: Sent/Mara and Guard/Jug and Slinger/Sniper.

Right now I'm with a lot of responsabilities IRL, so I whant to pick wisely one the above mentioned classes to play, since I don't have a lot of time to play on a daily basis.

What you guys recommend, based on the current meta? And what should I do to get geared (can I get geared playing only PvP)?
Deception sin/shadow is considered to be really strong right now, but mostly due to the set bonus, so if you think you might have trouble getting fully geared (see below) then maybe that won't work for you. Other classes might also be dependent on set bonus, but sin/shadow is the one with the most complaints about OP right now. (Mostly, because one or two people have made it their mission to get the set bonus nerfed, but whatever.) If you do decided to go deception sin (infiltration shadow), look for Kre'a's deception sin gearing guide. Should still be in the first page or two of results here in the PvP forums.

Gearing - the general consensus is to run Master Mode flashpoints, and specifically, if you are stealth, run Red Reaper, where you can skip the mobs and run straight to the bosses, which is where the gear drops. People report gearing in a couple days this way. The other FP that gets a lot of mention is Hammer Station.

Gearing in PvP... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha! Oh wait, were you serious? I guess you actually believed the "play your way". I feel sorry for you. I guess, technically, you *can* gear via pvp. But it will take forever. You can play a whole match, taking 20 minutes or so for an 8v8. And then you *might* get a box, if your team wins. If you do get a box, there seems to be about a 90% chance that it will drop gear that is below your iLevel and therefore useless. Or you can, in the same amount of time, rush through a couple red reapers and get 10 times the gear drops, and good chance of getting useful stuff as well.

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merovejec
11.12.2019 , 08:16 AM | #3
Depending on how long you have been away you have some catching up to do. Hard to say if you have been here when we still had skill trees, expertise etc. Its best to take a look at your toons and level them up to 75 so that you get a hang of things. Websites like Dulfy stopped being updated so guides are a bit more rare now and out of date in some cases, but its not hard to get picture of the class does.

Its good you came back for 6.0 as it changes quite a few things, mainly the gearing. As it was already mentioned there is no pvp gear, just gear, which you use for both PVE and PVP. The funny thing is that atm its better to obtain the gear via PVE (specifically running the fastest Flashpoints on Master mode-Hammer station, Red Reaper). You get gear from each boss based on your current rating. If you are wearing 268 gear you will be getting 270 and so on, until you reach 306.

We got a lot of QoL improvements and in 6.0 all gear is legacy, even left side (relics, implants etc) so you can actually farm gear on one toon and send it over to others. You can even set discipline for which you get loot by right clicking on your portrait. So if you have a assasin, you can wear dps gear and get tank drops for example. Besides FPS you get Renow crates which also give you gear, but its much slower than drops from bosses or any other activity.

As for classes, all toons you mentioned are well off in 6.0 its about what you preffer. There are no real losers, if you are good with the class you will be fine.
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AndriusAjax
11.12.2019 , 10:04 AM | #4
I'd probably recommend Sin or Sniper of the ones you mentioned. Sin would be a great choice for a variety of reasons: easier to grind gear via FPs as stealth. Fairly easy to play. Very much OP atm.

And yea, it's a good time to return. A lot of people focus on the negatives, but 6.0 has given me (a pure pvper) something to do finally. Back when Ossus dropped, I had max gear the week the rep cap opened. After that... I muddled around with some alts' gear, but ultimately slid back to my old ways of simply queuing for PvP, watching TV on another monitor, and not caring how I progressed with other toons, other specs, etc. Now, with the new "horizontal" gear grind, even though I'm finished with my main set, my healing set, and possessing most tacticals I want, I can still work on getting other tacticals, other set bonuses, gearing crafter sets (amplifiers that add crit chance to crafters). I'm also not perfectly sorted in my amplifiers, as they've made maximizing your PvP stats a bit tricker. Which to me, is a good thing. So in my opinion, they took a page out of Eso's book and really put variety and options back in the game. Something we haven't seen since the skill trees.

As far as the "play your way" marketing... eh. Yea, it would be nice if they made the gear drops from, say, 3 hours of PVE, the same as doing 3 hours of PVP. Or at least somewhat similar. But the fact of the matter is you can get as much gear doing 3 hours of PVE as you can doing 3 days of PVP. And I haven't done the math on that, it just certainly seems that way.

I'd recommend leveling and gearing up your assassin first. You'll find the grind goes way better on a stealth class. And since all gear is now Legacy bound, you could always use your stealth class to grind for other classes. You'll just get a few random set pieces that you may not need. I did solo MM red reaper runs. Went by super fast. I went from 270 to 300 in 2 days (2 very boring days). But can you grind with just PVP? Yeah, sure. Is it effective use of time? Arguably no.

But on the flip side, I have a buddy who does not want to concern himself with any of the new gearing complexities. So he's just pvping and not worrying about it, and he's as happy as can be. Ignorance is bliss, so if you really don't want to PVE, you don't have to. But again, it is much quicker to grind via pve. And that really shouldn't be the case.

[In my opinion you should get a war zone lock box for every loss. And you should get a yellow lock box for every win. ]

But anyways, in my opinion 6.0 has really made the game more enjoyable in that I have a laundry list of pieces and amplifiers that I'm shooting for, that will be fun to get to. Gl
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Lhancelot
11.12.2019 , 11:52 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by AndriusAjax View Post
I'd probably recommend Sin or Sniper of the ones you mentioned. Sin would be a great choice for a variety of reasons: easier to grind gear via FPs as stealth. Fairly easy to play. Very much OP atm.
this. ^

Take your time, just solo FPs if you want to focus on getting gears at your own pace. With sin, you can stealth by mobs and gear up fastest. Plus the class got a lot of buffs with tacticals and gear sets.
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RafaelPeretz
11.12.2019 , 04:49 PM | #6
Thank you guys! Apreciate all the advices.

I going to play with my Shadow to begin with.

Since gear is legacy, maybe I will be able to go through other toons and have some fun.
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Akharus
11.12.2019 , 08:54 PM | #7
What do you mean by legacy gear? I just came back too and everything is nuts. Last I played we had skill trees and the fighter pvp thing didnt exist and the level cap was still 50 @_@.

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merovejec
11.13.2019 , 01:31 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Akharus View Post
What do you mean by legacy gear? I just came back too and everything is nuts. Last I played we had skill trees and the fighter pvp thing didnt exist and the level cap was still 50 @_@.
Heh well, you have a LOT of catching up to do
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merovejec
11.13.2019 , 01:32 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by RafaelPeretz View Post
Thank you guys! Apreciate all the advices.

I going to play with my Shadow to begin with.

Since gear is legacy, maybe I will be able to go through other toons and have some fun.
If you will play shadow its a good idea to solo the new flashpoint over and over again, the drops from it are same as in MM FPS. Its a silly grind, but as a stealther you will just do the bosses and will get higher gear each time you run the flashpoint. Solo version is fast to do as the bosses have little HP.
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NogueiraA
11.13.2019 , 02:15 AM | #10
There's no gearing through pvp, period. Some people will say that it is "possible" but don't even bother.
My best advice is for you to level up a stealth class and find some Master Mode Red Reaper stealth runs at fleet, this way you can gear up very very quickly.
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