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Rule Of Two Is No More After Plagueis.


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This Darth Plagueis said in the novel Dart Plagueis. Still on master and one apprentice as always but more Sith as to be stronger and challenge the Jedi. This is why there were more Sith after when Sidious came to rule after Plagueis.He says that Bane's rule of two is "old"

 

The force is a living thing that evolve,Sidious also knew this.This is well described

in the episode III novel were Yoda admits the Sith has evolved while the Jedi have not.

This is why the light side of the force wanted to start over with Luke and the new Jedi order.

 

BTW i really recommend the book.Check out the sample of it under the image.

Awesome VO. Sample is about Sidious.Novel is about 65 years before battle of Yavin.

When Plagueis discover the future Sidious and we learn about Palpatines background.

 

http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B006PFYCW6&qid=1331710998&sr=1-1

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Star Wars canon = Movies/What George says > TV series > books

 

In the Star Wars: The Clone Wars tv series, Season 3 Epsiode 12 "Nightsisters" written by Katie Lucas (George Lucas' daughter)...

 

... Darth Sidious/Palpatine contacts Darth Tyranous/Count Dooku and tells him that he has sensed that Dooku's "assassin", Asajj Ventress, has grown strong with the darkside and wants to know if Dooku is training an apprentice so that they can overthrow him. Dooku responds saying she is just an assassin, but Sidious orders Dooku to kill her as a sign of loyalty to him.

 

Doesn't that show adherence to the Rule of Two?

 

 

IMO...

The Sith evolved into the Rule of Two.

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Darth Plagueis were mostly looking to get rid of the rule of two simply because the rule of two is there to ensure the tradition continues because the assumption is that the master will always perish.(This is flat-out stated by Bane in his parts of Book of Sith). Plagueis and Sidious both wanted to live forever. Plagueis didn't even want secrets between him and Sidious because he wanted to combine all their resources into discovering eternal life. He was panicky about dying.

 

Regardless, they both still adhered to the rule of two, though Sidious continued to push borders on it by ensuring he had an apprentice lined up before he offed his master or lost his current apprentice.

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This Darth Plagueis said in the novel Dart Plagueis. Still on master and one apprentice as always but more Sith as to be stronger and challenge the Jedi. This is why there were more Sith after when Sidious came to rule after Plagueis.He says that Bane's rule of two is "old"

 

The force is a living thing that evolve,Sidious also knew this.This is well described

in the episode III novel were Yoda admits the Sith has evolved while the Jedi have not.

This is why the light side of the force wanted to start over with Luke and the new Jedi order.

 

BTW i really recommend the book.Check out the sample of it under the image.

Awesome VO. Sample is about Sidious.Novel is about 65 years before battle of Yavin.

When Plagueis discover the future Sidious and we learn about Palpatines background.

 

http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B006PFYCW6&qid=1331710998&sr=1-1

 

The TV show plays a little fast and loose with the Rule of Two, but Ventress is never a true Sith. She is an Acolyte not an Apprentice to Count Dooku meaning she was never going to raise to the level of Sith Lord. Plagueis may have suggested abolishing the Rule of Two, but it wasn't until well after Palpatine that it actually happened. So no, your wrong. The Rule of Two still exists after Plagueis.

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The TV show plays a little fast and loose with the Rule of Two, but Ventress is never a true Sith. She is an Acolyte not an Apprentice to Count Dooku meaning she was never going to raise to the level of Sith Lord. Plagueis may have suggested abolishing the Rule of Two, but it wasn't until well after Palpatine that it actually happened. So no, your wrong. The Rule of Two still exists after Plagueis.

 

Yep, it goes away when Palpatine dies since there are no more true sith lords after him.

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And that's the reason I don't count Jacen as a true Sith.

 

Or Krayt, or Talon, or any of those people.

Why? Krayt learned to be Sith from an ancient Sith Lord... and Vergere... he found many old holocrons and consulted them regularly. Some, like Bane's holo, considered him an imposter. Then there's the Lost Tribe, who may or may not survive FOTJ.

 

True, Jacen only really learned from Lumiya, who like Ventress wasn't truly Sith (TCW's not the only one that played fast & loose with the Rule; the EU in general did, too, like the REPUBLIC comics featuring many acolytes that weren't ever actually identified as Sith: Ventress, Sora Bulq, Tol Skorr, probably some others I'm forgetting; they aspired to be Sith, but were only ever tools of Dooku and Sidious; of course, Darth Maul was the same according to the Plagueis book, but be believed himself to be Sith and got the 'Darth' title too)

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Why? Krayt learned to be Sith from an ancient Sith Lord... and Vergere... he found many old holocrons and consulted them regularly. Some, like Bane's holo, considered him an imposter. Then there's the Lost Tribe, who may or may not survive FOTJ.

 

True, Jacen only really learned from Lumiya, who like Ventress wasn't truly Sith (TCW's not the only one that played fast & loose with the Rule; the EU in general did, too, like the REPUBLIC comics featuring many acolytes that weren't ever actually identified as Sith: Ventress, Sora Bulq, Tol Skorr, probably some others I'm forgetting; they aspired to be Sith, but were only ever tools of Dooku and Sidious; of course, Darth Maul was the same according to the Plagueis book, but be believed himself to be Sith and got the 'Darth' title too)

 

Krayt was never a true sith lord, he was a self proclaimed one.

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True, Jacen only really learned from Lumiya, who like Ventress wasn't truly Sith (TCW's not the only one that played fast & loose with the Rule; the EU in general did, too, like the REPUBLIC comics featuring many acolytes that weren't ever actually identified as Sith: Ventress, Sora Bulq, Tol Skorr, probably some others I'm forgetting; they aspired to be Sith, but were only ever tools of Dooku and Sidious; of course, Darth Maul was the same according to the Plagueis book, but be believed himself to be Sith and got the 'Darth' title too)

 

Acolytes were not considered sith, just 'assistants'. They were given minor/moderate training in the dark side to hook them in and make them useful, but they'd never progress past that point into a sith lord. There was only ever two 'true' sith during Palpatine's reign: Palpatine and Vader. Everyone else was a throw-away tool.

 

Darth Maul, while he may of had the Darth title, was little more than a placeholder for a better apprentice.

 

 

Why? Krayt learned to be Sith from an ancient Sith Lord... and Vergere... he found many old holocrons and consulted them regularly. Some, like Bane's holo, considered him an imposter. Then there's the Lost Tribe, who may or may not survive FOTJ.

 

Minor FOTJ spoiler:

 

The Lost Tribe members on Kesh are still alive, elsewhere not so much.

 

 

Krayt broke the Rule of Two and instituted something that was like a mix of Kaan's Brotherhood of Darkness and the old Rule by the Strongest (both of which failed horribly). That is why Bane thinks he is an imposter and not a true heir of the Sith. If I remember right, the ghosts/projections from pretty much all the sith holocrons he had mocked him for being weak. Which kind of invalidates his reign if he can't even get a little grudging respect out of them.

 

As for Vergere, I'm not sure you can really classify what she is. Nominally sith, sometimes jedi, other times who knows?

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And remember just because they Sith was destroyed with Vader and Sidious doesnt mean there will be no more true Sith.The dark side of the force just like the light side will by itself try to restore balance by getting someone to be Sith again.Just like Exar Kun who went to Yavin 4 i belive it was were he encountered the ancient Sith lords.Same goes for Jedi.

 

Even if all the Jedi were destroyed the light side would try and balance things out with a champion like it did with Anakin.You can never destroy the light or dark side.You need both.

Just like love and hate they will never go away.

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Why? Krayt learned to be Sith from an ancient Sith Lord... and Vergere... he found many old holocrons and consulted them regularly. Some, like Bane's holo, considered him an imposter. Then there's the Lost Tribe, who may or may not survive FOTJ.

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No... Krayt failed. Bane called him a disgrace. And he broke everything the Sith stood for. He was a fool.

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