rickochey Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Currently working on a Cleansing guide, but i have come across a bump in the road in regards to mental and physical effects. At the moment i have identified leg shot and cauterize as physical effects but not to sure about any more mental effects on that note. Anyone know if these are aimed more towards PVE? or whether i have missed a few abilities... - Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothematic Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Crushing Darkness (and Creeping Terror?) and their Republic counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankqull Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 mind maze(its assasin pendant) is mental mind crush, weaken mind(") aswell if i remember correct. "mind" within the abilitys name is an indicator - even though its not allways correct - to identify mental abilitys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickochey Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 None of the dots used by sage or in the balance (madness) tree count as mental effects.. I am trying this out with other healers on our server atm and no dice... BIOWARE please explain :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enexemander Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Mezs are mental effects. Out of combat mezs by operatives and assassins, concussive shot from mercenaries, and awe by knights are all mez effects (of course their counter class abilities count as the same). To test any of these effects, use them on an NPC and mouse over the icon that shows up. It will tell you what type of effect it is. [edit] Flash Bang from Snipers is a tech effect, however. [edit2] The immobilize from Sever Force is a Force Effect, as is the dot itself. Edited February 19, 2013 by Enexemander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothematic Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 None of the dots used by sage or in the balance (madness) tree count as mental effects.. I am trying this out with other healers on our server atm and no dice... BIOWARE please explain :\ Odd.. I've wiped mind crush on my sorcerer in PVP before o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoeMeister Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 IIRC Flashbang and Flashgrenade (8 sec mezz from agent and smuggler) are mental effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enexemander Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 IIRC Flashbang and Flashgrenade (8 sec mezz from agent and smuggler) are mental effects. Nope. They are tech effects. I just tested it in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enexemander Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Odd.. I've wiped mind crush on my sorcerer in PVP before o.O That's because mind crush is a [Force] effect, and sorcerers can cleanse them by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickochey Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Thanks for the help guys but i have tried all the suggested CCs and none class as mental or physical as me and my friend (scoundral) cant cleanse any of the same 2 CCs. I am starting to think they are more PVE focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enexemander Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Thanks for the help guys but i have tried all the suggested CCs and none class as mental or physical as me and my friend (scoundral) cant cleanse any of the same 2 CCs. I am starting to think they are more PVE focused. Please see my earlier post. I have tested several effects and noted which ones ARE mental effects. There are quite a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickochey Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mind maze is a mental effect!!!! YESSSSS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickochey Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mezs are mental effects. Out of combat mezs by operatives and assassins, concussive shot from mercenaries, and awe by knights are all mez effects (of course their counter class abilities count as the same). sorry i had to double check these since some of the suggestions were incorrect but you are 100% correct, ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BambulaGTS Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 In PvP mental effects: PBAoE mezz from warrior, mezz rocket from merc, saps (at least for now when they enabled debuff icons back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicRider Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 IIRC Flashbang and Flashgrenade (8 sec mezz from agent and smuggler) are mental effects. No they are certainly not mental effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicRider Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Also force lift/whirlwind is cleansable by sages, which makes it either force or mental effect, I suspect force but I need to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackNader Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) I hate the the cleansing system tbh. De-buffs should be colour coded into 3 categories. Pure tech, Pure force, Mixed. The debuff icons should be way more visible as well. Tech could be green, Force could be purple and Mixed could be Orange. Edited February 19, 2013 by JackNader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Seismic grenade is mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarenergy Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Odd.. I've wiped mind crush on my sorcerer in PVP before o.O I've been able to cleanse mind crush, weaken mind, and sever force on my sorc. I also can cleanse the knight/warrior burn or bleed effects as well as gunslinger's leg shot. Leg shot and sniper's knockback root are physical effects I'm pretty sure. Things that can't be cleansed by sorc/sage are tech effects like those used by agents or bounty hunters. Edited February 19, 2013 by Solarenergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGLYMRJ Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Cleansing guide TL;DR version. Sage/Sorc: Can cleanse DOTS by other force users and all Mezzes by force users. Scoundrel/Operative: Can cleanse all DOTS by tech users and all Mezzes by tech users. Commando/Mercenary: Who cares. Edited February 19, 2013 by UGLYMRJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickochey Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Should hopefully have a guide up soon in regards to cleansing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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