-Damask- Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Why do weapons list a DPS rating for <500m when every time I get that close to an enemy I rarely hit anything. Unless we are both at a dead stop any shots fired at extreme close range all seem to miss, despite my cursor being dead center of his targeting reticle. Especially during head to head encounters and perpendicular encounters. But get a little farther away and they start to do damage again. Has anyone else noticed this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetsuida Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I've noticed the same thing. I'll try to do a screen-recording and look it over, to see if it's really the case. I wonder if the Evasion ability somehow kicks in higher at close range (in a buggy way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Malice Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 i've noticed that also. You and someone else can get dead stop, 100m away from each other and 9 out of 10 shots miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbl_holmes Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I've noticed this as well... I wonder if they have weapon hardpoint convergence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itkovian Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I have seen that issue as well. No idea what might be causing this. Also, I saw the same problem with locking missiles. You simply cannot get a lock if too close, just like lasers cannot hit the target. This may be an artefact of our camera being behind our ship, and when someone is really close they're actually on top of our ship and so weapons cannot track. Still, it certainly looks strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkerus Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I was educated by the forums on this previously... Due to the high angle of attack you (and your opponent) take a severe accuracy penalty. This game isn't 100% based on simply hitting the lead reticule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avanael Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) As a scout you can have overall 40% passive evasion with lightweight armor and distortion field. While distortion field have an active ability to give 75% evasion (if upgraded) for 3 seconds. I really enjoy it, to shoot enemies into oblivion at frontal close range while not getting a single hit . Edit: forget it, didn't realise it's about a range of 500m Edited December 9, 2013 by Avanael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustotepp Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Some possible reasons: 1) Your weapons have a Tracking penalty to accuracy that comes into play any time you are firing somewhere that is not directly in front of you. So any time you are aiming at something while turning, you are also inherently less accurate. You can see the rating if you turn on detailed tooltips. (Example: Light laser cannon has a -1% per degree Tracking penalty) 2) If you are turning quickly or moving fast with a close target, the place where the damage number would have appeared on your screen can be out of your field of view before it pops up. 3) If you are *very* close, you can't shoot someone. By very close I mean almost touching. I don't know what is up with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reclipsed Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I have seen that issue as well. No idea what might be causing this. Also, I saw the same problem with locking missiles. You simply cannot get a lock if too close, just like lasers cannot hit the target. This may be an artefact of our camera being behind our ship, and when someone is really close they're actually on top of our ship and so weapons cannot track. Still, it certainly looks strange. I noticed this with my clusters this weekend. A number of times I would be under 1200m behind a target and my missle lock would not engage. I'm thinking it's a server->home/ lag issue because I was quickly tapping lock-on, trying to lead my target (hidden GCD?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luneward Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 We can probably also add in the possibility of client-server difference. Where you think they are and where the server thinks they are sometimes are two different things. GSF acts really smoothly for an online game, but I would imagine right on the edge of the firing range or right up in their face can potentially cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin_Kelvar Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I was educated by the forums on this previously... Due to the high angle of attack you (and your opponent) take a severe accuracy penalty. This game isn't 100% based on simply hitting the lead reticule. I always assumed it was a combination of this and your enemy's evasion stat. Which is one reason I think accuracy/evasion should be removed since it in essence allows you to miss for no other reason than an unlucky RNG result. In a sad way I think the PvE space-on-rails is more fun in that regard: accuracy is based solely on my ability to aim and if I miss it's cause my aim was off not because some RNG decided that I should miss. If they combined the PvE space method of accuracy based on player ability with all the current GSF non-accuracy/evasion stats/abilities I think the game would be even more fun than it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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