AsarAnchti Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) As I said in one thread, there are always two kinds of people after introducing new patch - those who whine about new changes and those who defend them. Untill now I belong to the defenders, but let me change this stance with upcoming Monday's patch. First of all, for those who would want to scream "Elitist!", here's a copy of my post in Companion feedback thread: I hope I'm not too late with the feedback. Your level: 65 Roughly Average Item Rating: 178-190 with exceptions (2 x crystal of rating cca 156, PVP chest rating 204) Discipline: DPS marauder Companion: Senya Companion role: healing Companion Influence level: 11 Which Mission or Star Fortress are you playing (Solo Mode? Heroic Mode?): story and planetary heroics, solo Your personal experience while playing this content: - Story mission challenge - very low, there was practically no challenge there - Alderaan Heroics challenge - low to slight medium, I didn't die once, got to 1/10 of HP bar once. - Makeb Heroics challenge - low to hard. Most of the heroics were easy. However, I couldn't finish False history. I tried it 4 times, and died every time either due to high abundance of mobs or gas. Also, The Specialists is probably bugged. I couldn't interact with Docking ring communication computer, thus was unable to progress through this quest. - Star Fortress solo challenge - medium. I died once, but was able to finish the FP without much trouble. - Star Fortress heroics challenge - impossible. I couldn't do it in my current equipment. I got stuck on Praetorian. Conclusion: All in all I think that companions are as they should be. Slight boost may improve my survivability in Star Fortress and few planetary heroics, but I think better gear gained through crystals will also accomplish this. Now, I understand that some people want a challenge and some want just interactive movie. However, I don't want to pay monthly sub for the second option. I believe every content is soloable (except OPs and FPs) in current state, just one needs to think during battle and have appropriate gear. Therefore, IF companions will become godlike again, I am cancelling my sub. And what's the reason for this thread? Just to let BW know the same way as all the threads about cancelling subs if they don't make companions OP. And I am also interested if there are others thinking similarly to me. EDIT: Seeing that this thread is still alive, I'd like to announce that I have found a perfect guild for my playstyle, thus this thread is invalid. Please, ignore it and let it die. Edited November 23, 2015 by AsarAnchti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geschmonz Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Just disable abilities on your companion if you feel they become too strong. If you dont know how to do it, just ask in the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmon Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Here's an idea.. disable some of the companion skills you deem OP. That is way easier than making everyone play at your style.. You sound like my 5 year old complaining that everyone doesn't have the same things they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkHelsing Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I don't understand where you got 'OP' from Eric's statement when he only said 'Buff'. What numbers are you looking at? An increase no matter how small is considered a 'Buff.' Are you saying a 5% increase in healing or, HP is considered - OP? You may as well imply that coconuts also migrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcargan Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I whole heartedly agree this game is not worth paying for if its easy and just simply for story content I can spend the same ammount of money on redbox or netflix and get 10 times the entertainment value for month if things taken back to way they where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrius Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Except that if you really wanted a challenge you could have created a self imposed one, we can't bring our companions back to pre 4.0.2... Your problem has a solution that can be implemented by the players, ours did not, it's really not the same. But if you feel having to change your play style to gain back what you lost is reason enough to leave I can understand that. I could recommend GW2 and TERA as action based MMOs that can be challenging even in solo content, plenty of group content that is harder them hard as well, gl! Edited November 21, 2015 by Devrius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theeko Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm going to cancel my sub cause we don't have Teemo in this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocles Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 As I said in one thread, there are always two kinds of people after introducing new patch - those who whine about new changes and those who defend them. Untill now I belong to the defenders, but let me change this stance with upcoming Monday's patch. First of all, for those who would want to scream "Elitist!", here's a copy of my post in Companion feedback thread: I hope I'm not too late with the feedback. Your level: 65 Roughly Average Item Rating: 178-190 with exceptions (2 x crystal of rating cca 156, PVP chest rating 204) Discipline: DPS marauder Companion: Senya Companion role: healing Companion Influence level: 11 Which Mission or Star Fortress are you playing (Solo Mode? Heroic Mode?): story and planetary heroics, solo Your personal experience while playing this content: - Story mission challenge - very low, there was practically no challenge there - Alderaan Heroics challenge - low to slight medium, I didn't die once, got to 1/10 of HP bar once. - Makeb Heroics challenge - low to hard. Most of the heroics were easy. However, I couldn't finish False history. I tried it 4 times, and died every time either due to high abundance of mobs or gas. Also, The Specialists is probably bugged. I couldn't interact with Docking ring communication computer, thus was unable to progress through this quest. - Star Fortress solo challenge - medium. I died once, but was able to finish the FP without much trouble. - Star Fortress heroics challenge - impossible. I couldn't do it in my current equipment. I got stuck on Praetorian. Conclusion: All in all I think that companions are as they should be. Slight boost may improve my survivability in Star Fortress and few planetary heroics, but I think better gear gained through crystals will also accomplish this. Now, I understand that some people want a challenge and some want just interactive movie. However, I don't want to pay monthly sub for the second option. I believe every content is soloable (except OPs and FPs) in current state, just one needs to think during battle and have appropriate gear. Therefore, IF companions will become godlike again, I am cancelling my sub. And what's the reason for this thread? Just to let BW know the same way as all the threads about cancelling subs if they don't make companions OP. And I am also interested if there are others thinking similarly to me. I get what you're saying. However, the fact is that a straight DPS character with no reliable self heals is screwed right now. The healing tics are just not big enough, and they seem to stay on cooldown even after they should... which I'm sure doesn't help either. Of course, this is all moot if they don't fix the input lag that we have now... at least for me, it is unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrius Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm going to cancel my sub cause we don't have Teemo in this game Treek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcargan Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Except that if you really wanted a challenge you could have crested a self imposed one, we can't bring our companions back to pre 4.0.2... You problem has a solution that can be implemented by the players, ours did not, it's really not the same. But if you feel having to change your play style is to gain back what you lost is reason enough to leave I can understand that. I could recommend GW2 and TERA as action based MMOs that can be challenging even in solo content, plenty of group content that is harder them hard as well, gl! NO you could not not enough to make it a challenge when you can take 6 elites unbuffed and not drop below 90% for more than 1 second as a dps character then clearly it was a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theeko Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Treek? Teemo is male, Treek is female Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artaniz Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 See ya , the amount of players that were leaving over the companion nerf was far far far far larger than the few that cant be happy with their challenge in hard modes and OPS. If you want a challenge play the parts of the game meant to be a challenge , dont try and twist the devs into making the entire game experience a boring grind fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geschmonz Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The corpse input lag is a bug. The companion nerf is a biased intended change towards hardcore gamers. But both should be hotfixed. And i am sure both lead to players canceling subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeKoCZ Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The nerf was not needed to begin with. So, by -at least- partially reverting it, they're just doing what they should've done. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlcman Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Here's an idea.. disable some of the companion skills you deem OP. That is way easier than making everyone play at your style.. You sound like my 5 year old complaining that everyone doesn't have the same things they do. Here is an idea. Follow your own advice and stop telling people how to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrius Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 NO you could not not enough to make it a challenge when you can take 6 elites unbuffed and not drop below 90% for more than 1 second as a dps character then clearly it was a problem Right, because dismissed companions are known to: "take 6 elites unbuffed and not drop below 90% for more than 1 second as a dps character" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkHelsing Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Here is an idea. Follow your own advice and stop telling people how to play. The irony of that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nommaz Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 NO you could not not enough to make it a challenge when you can take 6 elites unbuffed and not drop below 90% for more than 1 second as a dps character then clearly it was a problem sure you could, turn off all the healing.. Use just one spell Dismiss your companion. However they will not return them to pre nerf OP it'd be stupid, they will just buff them, still allowing you to alter the way you play without messing with the way I play. As other have said choice, I am saying it'd be great so we can all play the way we want to. But you just want it to stay the way it is thereby removing my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrius Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Here is an idea. Follow your own advice and stop telling people how to play. Tell you what, you tell me how I can get my companions to pre 4.0.2 levels and we'll stop telling you how to get back your before 4.0 "challenge" deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Right, because dismissed companions are known to: "take 6 elites unbuffed and not drop below 90% for more than 1 second as a dps character" Treek is that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztian Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsarAnchti Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 I don't understand where you got 'OP' from Eric's statement when he only said 'Buff'. What numbers are you looking at? An increase no matter how small is considered a 'Buff.' Are you saying a 5% increase in healing or, HP is considered - OP? You may as well imply that coconuts also migrate. Exactly this was said before 4.0.2. Eric said that healing would be reduced and right after patch people started reporting 50-75% decrease of healing. That's what I am afraid will happen next week but in reverse. Same as any other "I'm gonna cancel!" thread: attention-wh**ing. You know what? You are correct. Because obviously, threads such as this and cancelled subs are something that catches the eye of BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlcman Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Tell you what, you tell me how I can get my companions to pre 4.0.2 levels and we'll stop telling you how to get back your before 4.0 "challenge" deal? Please do tell what challenge you are talking about? Seeing how my post doesn't show my feeling on companions just on someone's stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Just disable abilities on your companion if you feel they become too strong. If you dont know how to do it, just ask in the forums. This. Letting others have stronger companions doesn't hurt you in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallensouls Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Well since the OP asked I will give him a wake up call. YOU ARE THE MINORITY. Most want companions un-nerfed, hence players unsubbing in droves, hence Bioware scrambling to stop it. Did that happen when you guys spent 3 weeks crying on the forums, did bioware scramble to nerf companions? NOPE so your threat and thread isnt really a worry. Edited November 21, 2015 by Fallensouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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