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Do you support an in game version of Recount. Please give reasons for your answer.

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Do you support an in game version of Recount. Please give reasons for your answer.

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Aramyn
01.16.2012 , 09:00 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
and that is fine. I am against doing a group or raid recount. Personal is fine group or raid is bad
Why is it fine? I guess if you don't mind settling for average it's fine but being able to compare with others helps you become a better player.

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Krazeh
01.16.2012 , 09:00 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by trublmaker View Post
No worries, if you followed the cookie cutter instructions for your class it should not be a problem. Further evaluation can be obtained via the personal combat log.
Evaluation which tells you nothing when you have nothing to compare it with.

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LostMK
01.16.2012 , 09:03 PM | #13
So is there any sort of parser that works with this game atm? if so links please

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elinnia
01.16.2012 , 09:05 PM | #14
Make it hide during combat so you don't get DPS racing to the top of the meters and ignoring aggro.

That is.... IF they absolutely MUST add a damage meter, I'd just before none at all.

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trublmaker
01.16.2012 , 09:06 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Krazeh View Post
Evaluation which tells you nothing when you have nothing to compare it with.
Ah OK. You want to see who is bigger. You could just ask.


I have bad news for you. The personal combat log is Bioware's way of saying you're not getting "recount."

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Krazeh
01.16.2012 , 09:09 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by trublmaker View Post
Ah OK. You want to see who is bigger. You could just ask.
No, I want to effectively gauge my performance because I care about it.

Quote: Originally Posted by trublmaker View Post
I have bad news for you. The personal combat log is Bioware's way of saying you're not getting "recount."
Given that they haven't actually confirmed that all we're getting is a personal combat log (that claim is based on an interpretation of what was said) then i'm not going to get too worked up at the moment about this 'bad news'.

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DaxRendar
01.16.2012 , 09:10 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Krazeh View Post
Evaluation which tells you nothing when you have nothing to compare it with.
Ah - so, apparently your problem is you are incapable of communicating with anyone in game... gotcha

Considering how many posts you've made in this thread, I would've thought for sure you were capable of asking Guildmates who played your class what their numbers were, as well as going to the inevitable "Post your best Results/Specs" threads that will appear within 5 minutes of the Personal Meters going live in the PTR

If you (or nobody in your Guild) is capable of trusting each other when discussing strats/metrics on really tough content then you have far more serious problems than "needing" an in-game Group Meter

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Bansheedragon
01.16.2012 , 09:11 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Rasstavad View Post
Yes - group meters are needed. I can understand that people knowing each others relative performance seems to scare the snot of some folks - but the access to such information has much more positive benefits than negative.


... and no, that one time that dude in Heroic SFK yelled at you for being out DPS'd by the healer isn't a reason not to have it.
People played MMOs before anyone even considered these meters, and people still play games that dont even consider using them, and guess what, these players is said games STILL manage to do perfectly fine WITHOUT these stupid meters you demand.

I can mention LOTRO, AOC, STO, just off the top of my head.

Please explain to me how players in other, and here in SWTOR can do perfectly fine WITHOUT these meters since you seem to think that they cannot do so without having them.

The way I see it is that you are so used to having these meters that that you are afraid you will not be able to do well enough without them.
For you its like a drug, you must have it no matter if its good or bad for you.

If you think these things are so essential to play, why do you play for a day/week without them and show us how good you really are.
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Why? Do they think there's a shortage of bad ones?

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Kourage
01.16.2012 , 09:16 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by trublmaker View Post
Ah OK. You want to see who is bigger. You could just ask.


I have bad news for you. The personal combat log is Bioware's way of saying you're not getting "recount."
lol


The combat log will not be personal. People who interpreted it that way have poor Reading comprehension.
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Krazeh
01.16.2012 , 09:16 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by DaxRendar View Post
Ah - so, apparently your problem is you are incapable of communicating with anyone in game... gotcha

Considering how many posts you've made in this thread, I would've thought for sure you were capable of asking Guildmates who played your class what their numbers were, as well as going to the inevitable "Post your best Results/Specs" threads that will appear within 5 minutes of the Personal Meters going live in the PTR

If you (or nobody in your Guild) is capable of trusting each other when discussing strats/metrics on really tough content then you have far more serious problems than "needing" an in-game Group Meter
No, I have no problem with communicating with people in game but why have people swap combat logs after the fight when you can just simplify it and have everyone's combat log record everything that happens in the fight? And who's to say that people aren't going to get fed up with being pestered after fights for copies of their combat logs?

With a full combat log and recount a guild can very quickly review the results of a fight before they try again. With personal combat logs then they all need to be collated and parsed before they can be reviewed. How is that a better system for improvement? It has nothing to do with trust and everything to do with efficiency and providing a better system.