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Celebrate Game Update 1.2: Legacy

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Celebrate Game Update 1.2: Legacy
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Kourage
04.15.2012 , 08:11 AM | #2581
Quote: Originally Posted by JayParish View Post
so bioware are giving the 30 days free to active subscribers. im guessing that means those with a reoccurring sub like a direct debit.

so because im not paying on a direct debit but have always paid and never let my sub run out im now not entitled to this gesture and im not considered a loyal customer. is this correct ?

if so this is hardly fair and is the point where I draw the line. I will congratulate Bioware on alienating loyal customers and will happily remove my subscription.

good luck to you all, I hope you enjoy this game and I hope none of you get ripped off by money grabbers who are not interested in the performance of there product, just so long as it makes them enough money.

"You must have signed up for a recurring subscription using a valid payment method OR redeemed a Game Time Code. "
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Samvan
04.15.2012 , 09:07 AM | #2582
I preordered the game.

I used a Game Time card.

I used one month payment.

After that, I took a few days pause from resubscribing.

Now I resubbed 2nd April....

And I'm not eligble for...not having a RECURRING? Just because I took a few days pause with the sub?

Or am I wrong? Will I get my 30 days or not? (Still got 18 days on my gametime).

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Nemu
04.16.2012 , 12:26 AM | #2583
Quote: Originally Posted by Xiere View Post
I can't help to feel sorry for the players who are incredibly loyal to this game, who have spent money on a Collector's Edition that was absolutely worthless, and who have limited playing time while raising children.

I know some of these people, and while most are saying "it's only $15" they're obviously not raising children. $15 dollars is a lot of money when you're raising children.
So when you attempt to trivialize this incredible mistake by Bioware, you might stop for a second to realize, not everyone is like you. Some people could use that $15 for an entry fee to a sports league.


This is a very bad move.

Agreed. I've been a beta tester, long-time follower on the site and forums, CE purchaser & continuous subber and I just don't have the time (due to work and the home life) to grind out the legacy rep or get to level 50. The 15 bucks isn't even my issue, it's just the face-slapping that BW did in order to keep around the folks who rushed the content and have been whining for months now.

That's okay, tho. I have other games I'm testing atm, D3 is out next month and it's soon summer time. If my GF and I keep playing beyond the summer, BW won't care & they won't notice if we leave, either. The 30 bucks a month we pay can go toward another recreation.
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TheshaggyonE
04.16.2012 , 01:09 PM | #2584
Think this will be it for me it seems. I'm offended.

I work, live with my partner and the kids stay at the weekends, so only play an evening or two during the week. I would love to be able to play more if I could.

I bought the game on release and have had a continuing subscription ever since with my current play time paid till mid september.

As I dont have a 50 nor toons that can get me legacy 6, and am unlikely to get them within the next week, I will miss out on the free month being offered.

I am very happy with what i've played of the game so far, and don't have any grumbles about the game, although the server I am playing on is now more or less a ghost town and it is difficult to be able to do any group quest, heroics or flashpoints. I appreciate that the game is being regularly updated with new stuff being added, although I've not yet had much chance to see any of the new features.

I was quite content to play at a leisurely pace, bringing up a couple of alts, doing as many quests as possible, including grey ones, and progressing with the crew skills etc.

I have a freind who I introduced to the game, by letting him play a character on my account for a few days to try it out, and who then bought the game and subscibed himself.

As he is long term unemployed and lives on his own, he has been able to play the game all day whenever he is awake if he likes, and subsequently has a level 50 and other alts. I also know for a fact that he wanted to hit 50 soon and went through the game with another friend with a higher level character.

He will therefore get the free month even though he has been subscribed for a month less than me, and paid less for the game as the price had dropped by the time he bought it.

Therefore I feel I am missing out because I have a job, a partner and kids who need my time as much as the game does.

This free month, which I feel is a nice gesture by Bw/Ea, is therefore a reward for acheivement and not for being a loyal subscriber or valued customer.

If the free month is to be given for loyalty or being valued then give it to people for being an active long term subscriber, but if it is to be for acheivement as it is, then remove the time limit all together, so everybody has a chance to acheive the reward, regardless of their personal life and their time to be able to play the game.

Thanks for reading.

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shirozou
04.18.2012 , 11:26 AM | #2585
Quote: Originally Posted by TheshaggyonE View Post
Think this will be it for me it seems. I'm offended.

I work, live with my partner and the kids stay at the weekends, so only play an evening or two during the week. I would love to be able to play more if I could.

I bought the game on release and have had a continuing subscription ever since with my current play time paid till mid september.

As I dont have a 50 nor toons that can get me legacy 6, and am unlikely to get them within the next week, I will miss out on the free month being offered.

I am very happy with what i've played of the game so far, and don't have any grumbles about the game, although the server I am playing on is now more or less a ghost town and it is difficult to be able to do any group quest, heroics or flashpoints. I appreciate that the game is being regularly updated with new stuff being added, although I've not yet had much chance to see any of the new features.

I was quite content to play at a leisurely pace, bringing up a couple of alts, doing as many quests as possible, including grey ones, and progressing with the crew skills etc.

I have a freind who I introduced to the game, by letting him play a character on my account for a few days to try it out, and who then bought the game and subscibed himself.

As he is long term unemployed and lives on his own, he has been able to play the game all day whenever he is awake if he likes, and subsequently has a level 50 and other alts. I also know for a fact that he wanted to hit 50 soon and went through the game with another friend with a higher level character.

He will therefore get the free month even though he has been subscribed for a month less than me, and paid less for the game as the price had dropped by the time he bought it.

Therefore I feel I am missing out because I have a job, a partner and kids who need my time as much as the game does.

This free month, which I feel is a nice gesture by Bw/Ea, is therefore a reward for acheivement and not for being a loyal subscriber or valued customer.

If the free month is to be given for loyalty or being valued then give it to people for being an active long term subscriber, but if it is to be for acheivement as it is, then remove the time limit all together, so everybody has a chance to acheive the reward, regardless of their personal life and their time to be able to play the game.

Thanks for reading.
THIS. A hundred times this! I could not have said it better myself. Sums up almost exactly my feelings on this matter. Bioware are not rewarding loyalty, they are rewarding achievement. Way to go Bioware, you have made me feel more un-valued as a customer than any company has in a long, long time. Good job, Bioware PR! Nice one!

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unseenmaji
04.18.2012 , 11:32 AM | #2586
Quote: Originally Posted by TheshaggyonE View Post
Think this will be it for me it seems. I'm offended.

I work, live with my partner and the kids stay at the weekends, so only play an evening or two during the week. I would love to be able to play more if I could.

I bought the game on release and have had a continuing subscription ever since with my current play time paid till mid september.

As I dont have a 50 nor toons that can get me legacy 6, and am unlikely to get them within the next week, I will miss out on the free month being offered.

I am very happy with what i've played of the game so far, and don't have any grumbles about the game, although the server I am playing on is now more or less a ghost town and it is difficult to be able to do any group quest, heroics or flashpoints. I appreciate that the game is being regularly updated with new stuff being added, although I've not yet had much chance to see any of the new features.

I was quite content to play at a leisurely pace, bringing up a couple of alts, doing as many quests as possible, including grey ones, and progressing with the crew skills etc.

I have a freind who I introduced to the game, by letting him play a character on my account for a few days to try it out, and who then bought the game and subscibed himself.

As he is long term unemployed and lives on his own, he has been able to play the game all day whenever he is awake if he likes, and subsequently has a level 50 and other alts. I also know for a fact that he wanted to hit 50 soon and went through the game with another friend with a higher level character.

He will therefore get the free month even though he has been subscribed for a month less than me, and paid less for the game as the price had dropped by the time he bought it.

Therefore I feel I am missing out because I have a job, a partner and kids who need my time as much as the game does.

This free month, which I feel is a nice gesture by Bw/Ea, is therefore a reward for acheivement and not for being a loyal subscriber or valued customer.

If the free month is to be given for loyalty or being valued then give it to people for being an active long term subscriber, but if it is to be for acheivement as it is, then remove the time limit all together, so everybody has a chance to acheive the reward, regardless of their personal life and their time to be able to play the game.

Thanks for reading.
It because they want to try keep sub numebrs up for finanical year as the 30 days sub as long people resub lets them show it on reports even though it borderline deception against investors. LA is not liking how things are going either and remember LA can pull it down if decide it hurting the Starwars name which it currently is. Honestly it making the Starwars universe into a joke,

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daibakuha
04.18.2012 , 11:33 AM | #2587
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
It because they want to try keep sub numebrs up for finanical year as the 30 days sub as long people resub lets them show it on reports even though it borderline deception against investors. LA is not liking how things are going either and remember LA can pull it down if decide it hurting the Starwars name which it currently is. Honestly it making the Starwars universe into a joke,

there's a whole lot of [citation needed] in this post.
Proudly still subscribed, out of pure spite.

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OzAvatar
04.18.2012 , 08:29 PM | #2588
Login with different characters to make them appear as portraits. Drag the portraits from the left side to the middle and then over the top of another one to display the relationship options.

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White_Silhouette
04.19.2012 , 11:04 AM | #2589
Reading this thread makes me sad.

Sadly the smartest thing that EA/BW could have done is not give a free month to anyone and not mention anything of the idea. With the amount of backlash and people pissed off I would be surprised if they ever do anything like this again. Since people have their own reasons why they are owed this free month more than other people.
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Fernidang
04.19.2012 , 12:35 PM | #2590
Whinge, whinge, whinge, ******, ******, ******....

Please. Bioware is giving some goodies away based on their idea of what constitutes an active subscriber. I believe they consider an active subsciber isnt just one who pays their $15 a month. It's also someone who has been in game and made up the Multiplayer part of MMO. They get the biggest goodies - a free month of game time. Everyone else at least gets something too. A pet just for having an active account, A free week if you had unsubscribed, and if you resubscribe you get the pet too. This is BioWare's call, and it's them giving something to the community as a "thank you" for being active - not a "reward" for paying a subscription. No-one is having anything taken away from them as all the complaining in this thread seems to indicate.

We all subscribed to the game prepared to pay our $15 a month to play the game which we have all been doing as much as we like or are able according our own lives. We have all been happy to do so or have left the game, irrelavant of any expectation of reward from BioWare.

If some people get a free month bonus in Bioware's judgement - fine! No-one else has lost anything. If you didnt get a free month you still get a pet. None of this was an expectation in your mind before this promotion and you have no reason to feel "entitled" to it now. You have lost nothing, and you are still doing what you would have been doing anyway. It is a bonus like any other bonus given by any other organisation anywhere - not everyone will get it, not everyone will qualify for it, and you have no cause to complain like a spoiled child if you didnt get it and someone else did.