Welllll.... sorry but ... duh. Of course things would then have to be changed. Like their starting quests and story quests.... How else?

That is exactly what i am suggesting. -> Not to say that it will happen as it will be a lot of work and i do not and will not underestimate that.

 

I guess what I am saying though is that it is not just work, but fundamentally changes the game design. Where as adding in the same classes but on the opposing faction works within the current game design system. I may not agree with the current foundation on the principles of Smugglers, Troopers, Bounty Hunters and Agents being faction bound, but I hesitate to see that premise changed at this point in the game, it reminds me the sweeping changes SOE made to SWG and we all know how those turned out.

I guess what I am saying though is that it is not just work, but fundamentally changes the game design. Where as adding in the same classes but on the opposing faction works within the current game design system. I may not agree with the current foundation on the principles of Smugglers, Troopers, Bounty Hunters and Agents being faction bound, but I hesitate to see that premise changed at this point in the game, it reminds me the sweeping changes SOE made to SWG and we all know how those turned out.

 

i dont see why they would need to change the entire game: the content for it is there.. but ye.. its very unlikely to happen as it will be a lot of work and wont be high on the priority list at this point - not because it fundamentally changes the game... however, doesnt every worthwhile bit of new content do just that to some degree?

I guess what I am saying though is that it is not just work, but fundamentally changes the game design. Where as adding in the same classes but on the opposing faction works within the current game design system. I may not agree with the current foundation on the principles of Smugglers, Troopers, Bounty Hunters and Agents being faction bound, but I hesitate to see that premise changed at this point in the game, it reminds me the sweeping changes SOE made to SWG and we all know how those turned out.

 

Meh.. I see it as more of a sort of addition / partial change, you see it as an entire game-changer.... whatever the reality - only Bioware would know

 

(its all relative anyway... from that angle i can easily see it as either.)

Edited August 22, 2012 by TheSunStar

Meh.. I see it as more of a sort of addition / partial change, you see it as an entire game-changer.... whatever the reality - only Bioware would know

 

(its all relative anyway... from that angle i can easily see it as either.)

 

We will have to agree to disagree. I simply see it as too big a change for too little pay off, especially when doing adding the classes into the game on their opposing factions can do the same thing, but also add new content as well.

I have only one question after seeing this initial post and then reading and skimming 23 pages of replies:

 

Does Bioware ever respond to posts, answer their subscribers, or set hard dates?

 

The only thing that keeps me subscribed at this point is that this is Star Wars. If it weren't for that, I'd be gone and never look back except with fond memories for a great game that just couldn't deliver on promises.

Edited August 22, 2012 by DarthAugustus

We will have to agree to disagree. I simply see it as too big a change for too little pay off, especially when doing adding the classes into the game on their opposing factions can do the same thing, but also add new content as well.

 

 

So wondering if during this thread of 23+ pages if the Devs or anyone from the company have responded?

So wondering if during this thread of 23+ pages if the Devs or anyone from the company have responded?

 

That reminds me, when are we going to be able to get SWTOR action figures of our characters? Seriously this is Star Wars, this is an MMO, that seems like a no brainer money maker right there.

Hopefully they will raise the level cap in this patch for the pay to play subscribers to somewhere around 60 and keep the F2P accounts on level 50.

so much hope for this game... for not...

 

Its almost like they never heard the story of SWG.........

 

Seriously...

 

Sad......

I'm sure kitty cats with bring in much needed players......

Oh wait, no it definitely won't.

 

Terrible, unoriginal race. Keep to the classics, or design something actually interesting.

(I would advise sticking to the former)

A few posters had some great ideas lined up... sadly their work is gone as well.. I was able to snatch my old post back as it still sorta lives on inside a quote of another poster. I wish i could get the other poster's work back (if you are reading this, please repost those ideas), they had great atmosphere ideas such as pod racing and gambling games at the casinos. At any rate, they used the absence of those as reasons as to why SWtOR was/is failing.

 

My post was:

 

Yessir that was my post in which you responded. I have my contribution posted in other threads but there are sincerely too many good ideas they can build on. You're right I'm getting impatient. For me the fudge is all the little things to specialize in. As of now there is some uniqueness to my toons but I want more little froo froo things too. Thanks for posting up

GW2 soon will be relased and they only 'promise' us new content in the future. Edited August 23, 2012 by Aluvard

OH MY GOD REALLY? A CAT? -_- YOU KNOW THIS GAME WAS OK BUT NOW IM THINKING ABOUT REMOVING MY ACCOUNT!!!!!! WHY, OUT OF ALL THE SPECIES IN STAR WARS THE OLD REPUBLIC, DID U HAVE TO USE, A CATHAR!!! I MEAN COME ON YO. NOT COOL:mad:. But besides that everything else looks OK but I was really looking forward on seeing us being able to have diffrent ships than the ones we already have. Like say if a smuggler wants a diffrent kind of ship, he can buy/earn one. There are so many diffrent kinds of speeders but only one kind of ship per character???? I mean that's kinda weird don't u think? Lol. We should at least be able to paint our ships...

OH MY GOD REALLY? A CAT? -_- YOU KNOW THIS GAME WAS OK BUT NOW IM THINKING ABOUT REMOVING MY ACCOUNT!!!!!! WHY, OUT OF ALL THE SPECIES IN STAR WARS THE OLD REPUBLIC, DID U HAVE TO USE, A CATHAR!!! I MEAN COME ON YO. NOT COOL:mad:. But besides that everything else looks OK but I was really looking forward on seeing us being able to have diffrent ships than the ones we already have. Like say if a smuggler wants a diffrent kind of ship, he can buy/earn one. There are so many diffrent kinds of speeders but only one kind of ship per character???? I mean that's kinda weird don't u think? Lol. We should at least be able to paint our ships...

 

Whoa whoa. Wrong time zone it's not 7:00 pm here... Well I guess u can't change that XD but still u should have on the side EST or WST or whatever...

Edited August 23, 2012 by TomThunderbird

This video shows me that the future of TOR is in fact "Back to the Future", and they are actually going back to the past to give us this same information again.

 

I kept waiting for Micheal J Fox to show up in the trailer. Maybe he was the Cathar.

game that had a ton of potential but in reality was just full of fail...this new content rather the renewed wait for things we already knew was coming is just another example of bioware's total mmo incompetence.

This video shows me that the future of TOR is in fact "Back to the Future", and they are actually going back to the past to give us this same information again.

 

I kept waiting for Micheal J Fox to show up in the trailer. Maybe he was the Cathar.

Rather - "No future"

dear devs,

please stop being so vague with actual dates/times/etc. The community would really appreciate it if you would stop being so secretative with everything. We had to wait 4 months just to get a peep out of you about nightmare ec coming soon...still waiting...and now you are saying tfb is coming in september great thats a little better. Could you please give us actual dates though? I would like to know how long i have to wait in between content updates. The 6 week estimate/promise bw gave earlier isn't good enough since we know there are always delays. It would be nice to know what exactly is coming and when. Instead i feel like every event or new piece of content is an ambush...they just pop up out of nowhere and if im lucky i find out maybe 10 hours in advance and thats only because i find the info on some fan site because you guys fail to post the info here first. I'm getting tired of the ambushes and vague responses. Give me actual information with details please!

 

thats completely true!!

Togruta?

Cathar as a playable race! Very happy!

Discuss this article!

 

BioWare / EA we tried to discuss our disgust with this article because it offers nothing new, nothing unique from other MMO's. What did you do? You deleted posts to hide the true thoughts of the people paying your way. Some large corporate entities just can't handle the truth. Truth being you failed. Wise up next time you want to launch something or you'll end up failing that endeavor too. Best of luck, you're gonna need it.

 

Send me a new and exciting trailer when you add:

 

~Speeder bike racing (customizable bikes)

~Multiplayer space battles OFF THE *********** RAIL SYSTEM ie. Rogue Squadron

~Gambling Tables on Nar Shadaa with Pazaak / slots

~Playable species actually worth while (see the many lists provided above)

 

I have this post saved in case you try to delete again. Who's the childish ***** who deleted the wonderful and intuitive posts offered by many? I just want to know so I have a name to tell people in reference to why they shouldn't play Star Wars (as if I needed another reason).

Cathar as a playable race! Very happy!

They only change skin on typical biped (for example human) and people are happy

People reaction only prove to Bio/EA that they don't need to try harder to add something really new -

"They add new race - hoorah"

/ facepalm

Edited August 24, 2012 by Aluvard

They only change skin on typical biped (for example human) and people are happy

People reaction only prove to Bio/EA that they don't need to try harder to add something really new -

"They add new race - hoorah"

/ facepalm

 

Mate, stay cool.

I do agree that we want original content, lots of it and a.s.a.p.

BUT, you should not tell other players not to be exited about Cathar. Some of them are, just check this thread, a lot of people actually do look forward to playing one.

A clear sign of something we should all know, different people like different thinks.

I agree that as a community we should work together and stick together.

By that i mean that I will support whatever additions to the game you want, under the condition that you support whatever I want.

But lets face it, in the none of us have infested as much in this game as Bioware has, so we do not GET to decide what they do with this game.

Its their game even more than it is ours. We can just try to tell them, in a friendly way, what we would like to see. And since they want our money as much as a good game, they might respond.

 

All i am saying is, this "wild-mob-thing" we got going in the Forums has got to stop...

No one can take us serious like that, we all sound like a bunch of 12 year olds stomping our feed on the ground wanting another slice of pie RIGHT NOW.

 

So yeah, relax mate, let those people work. The things they are doing are great. This is a great game, the only real problem it has, its to damn young, and thats why there is so little content...

Best what they have to do - it`s normal gear for the republic, cause the republics helmets and all other gear looks sucks against the empire, im playing the reps and i want it, but why i have to look like fckng samurai or a robot in champ/warhero. IT`s SUCKS!