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Rydarus' 4.0+ Vigilance/Vengeance Guide on Dulfy

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Rydarus' 4.0+ Vigilance/Vengeance Guide on Dulfy

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GrandLordMenace
12.13.2014 , 05:51 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by MozezKim View Post
Hey Rydarus, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make this excellent guide. I improved a lot by following your guide and advice on the vigilance discipline.

One thing I noticed though is that Vigilant Thrust has a 9 second cooldown and not 6. Other than that, I found this guide immensely helpful.

Once again, thank you for creating this awesome guide!
Yeah I noticed that and updated it, also the guide has changed links, I updated the link.

Veng is also changing links, I'll give you all the new link in the OP once I get to it!

I'm trying to make a video parse, but sadly lag on ships in 3.0 has been fairly... insane.

Whenever they patch it, I'll put up a video, I've already seen numerous requests for one. In the meantime, VeSev's guide has an excellent video, and while I may not agree with his opener 100%, he's a very good player and has the blessings of RNG'esus so yeah take a look at that

Guardian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwO5chQYWlI

Jugg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqg8lYSFS2E
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OscarGogh
12.14.2014 , 08:50 AM | #32
Hi Rydarus - first of all thank you for this guide - very helpful for people like me who drift in and out of the game every so often!

I noticed in the section Rotation Strategy, in the last line of the last paragraph you mentioned
Quote:
Combat Focus/Enrage can also be used while using an ability (besides Master Strike/Ravage) so that a filler in the filler window can consume resource rather than burning it.
I don't mean to nitpick on what is otherwise a fantastic guide, but did you mean 'produce' here instead of 'consume'?

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MozezKim
12.14.2014 , 12:43 PM | #33
Hey Rydarus I got a question.

Since in 3.0 the pvp and pve set bonuses are the same, is it a good idea to use the pvp armoring to get the set bonus until i get the pve ones?

It is probably going to take me awhile to grind out the pve set bonus armorings.

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GrandLordMenace
12.14.2014 , 01:56 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by MozezKim View Post
Hey Rydarus I got a question.

Since in 3.0 the pvp and pve set bonuses are the same, is it a good idea to use the pvp armoring to get the set bonus until i get the pve ones?

It is probably going to take me awhile to grind out the pve set bonus armorings.
No.

The 186/180 set bonus is better than the old one technically but only barely, the mainstat gap closes it. Unless you have like oldass 162 set bonuses then just stick with the old ones until you get new ones.
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GrandLordMenace
12.14.2014 , 01:57 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by OscarGogh View Post
Hi Rydarus - first of all thank you for this guide - very helpful for people like me who drift in and out of the game every so often!

I noticed in the section Rotation Strategy, in the last line of the last paragraph you mentioned


I don't mean to nitpick on what is otherwise a fantastic guide, but did you mean 'produce' here instead of 'consume'?
Sort of, I meant you can use an ability that can consume focus instead of an ability that produces focus in that GCD
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Hornakkan
12.17.2014 , 08:02 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by SwordEmpire View Post
To anyone who has tested alacrity, have you noticed getting keening procs more consistently? While I would hate to have to lose more surge, I'm debating if its worth the hit to normalize my rotation better.
Don't have tested right now, but I can't stop wondering if the Alacrity hasn't been redesigned to be a "Kotor Flurry" stylish stat.

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GrandLordMenace
12.17.2014 , 03:00 PM | #37
Guide links may become unupdated for the next month, going on a holiday hiatus.

I've put my most recent parse up though, the juggernaut link may be removed, if it is, go to the dulfy site, go to SWTOR class guides in the menu, and click on the thing.
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Manweth
12.24.2014 , 01:05 AM | #38
Someone please check if OS applies Beatdown to combat dummy, mine doesn't work, messed up a 4.67 parse that would be higher.
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Trimexxx
12.25.2014 , 06:16 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Manweth View Post
Someone please check if OS applies Beatdown to combat dummy, mine doesn't work, messed up a 4.67 parse that would be higher.

As Vesev was kind enough to point out for me, the armour debuff you put on the dummy has ALL raid debuffs in it so you won't see it as a seperate debuff.

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Torvai
01.04.2015 , 08:04 AM | #40
Maybe it's a dumb question, but has anybody tried to not stack acc at all but go all surge and fight in soresu, since it gives the 10% you need? I mean, basically, you don't need shien for anything in that spec, except for unremmiting. Could it be possible that the more surge and/or alac on gear makes up for the 16% dmg loss on the stance?(10%less for soresu and no 6% gain from shien)