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KOTFE story is great...Except... [worst/klunkiest line]

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KOTFE story is great...Except... [worst/klunkiest line]

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SithKoriandr
11.11.2015 , 10:43 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Diviciacus View Post
Heralds of Zildrog use Lime Green crystals. I think you guys might be colorblind.
I was thinking of the Psions. Oooops!
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nuclearmind
11.12.2015 , 12:33 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by SithKoriandr View Post
I was thinking of the Psions. Oooops!
Same. I didn't even pay attention to the snake guys but I was talking about the Scion prophets that Arcann seems to despise so.
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RayceUlrand
11.13.2015 , 04:19 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by timmyw View Post

A lot of people have commented on Vaylin being a weak character and I agree. That scene at the start where she was just casually walking while your character tries to escape with carbonite poisoning was just silly.
Can you, or someone else, please explain why Vaylin coming after you was silly? In spite of her potential to be an interesting character, I agree she's fallen short. The superpowered psycho girl trope is run into the dirt and I get why people don't like her. But if it was Arcann coming after you rather than Vaylin, would that have made it better somehow? Vaylin is so frightening even a seasoned Sith Lord like Lana admits she has no chance of beating her, not to mention Arcann being EXTRA careful not to step on her toes. All of that coupled with Vaylin being Valkorian's favorite child and Senya going out of her way to make sure you didn't face her, suggests to me that running from Vaylin implies her power hidden behind her childish tendencies. Valkorian had to limit her strength after Senya's pleading.

Now, the fact she compromises a reactor for no reason when she likely had the capability of cutting us off from another route? That was stupid, but there's a reason she's not on the throne. She doesn't have the patience to make any decisions for the good of anyone but herself. All power, zero intelligence.

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SerraShar
11.13.2015 , 06:05 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by RayceUlrand View Post
Can you, or someone else, please explain why Vaylin coming after you was silly? In spite of her potential to be an interesting character, I agree she's fallen short. The superpowered psycho girl trope is run into the dirt and I get why people don't like her. But if it was Arcann coming after you rather than Vaylin, would that have made it better somehow? Vaylin is so frightening even a seasoned Sith Lord like Lana admits she has no chance of beating her, not to mention Arcann being EXTRA careful not to step on her toes. All of that coupled with Vaylin being Valkorian's favorite child and Senya going out of her way to make sure you didn't face her, suggests to me that running from Vaylin implies her power hidden behind her childish tendencies. Valkorian had to limit her strength after Senya's pleading.

Now, the fact she compromises a reactor for no reason when she likely had the capability of cutting us off from another route? That was stupid, but there's a reason she's not on the throne. She doesn't have the patience to make any decisions for the good of anyone but herself. All power, zero intelligence.
I never though that her chasing you at the beginning was silly . Quiet the opposite . She cleary was able to 'Sense' you and thats show she is powerful and have unique abilities wich make her highly dangerous .

I don't know about that . The throne part...

One who doesn't want the Throne doesn't mean they are stupid . It usually mean their goal is elsewhere . Not everyone want to be tied to Leading , especially if they don't believe in said kingdom or believe themself mean for greater things . Why aim for Zaakul if ya want the whole galaxy ??

There is still time for her to grow and show us more . I admit so far I'm a bit dissapointed with her , but hopefully in the next chapter she surprise us .

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Karkais
11.13.2015 , 07:34 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Lazproperty View Post
Valkorion knows about Jedi and Sith, you would think he formed his eternal army on how to fight and resist force users BEFORE invading them.
Isn't "eternal army" mostly robotic anyway? (except for those knights)
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SerraShar
11.13.2015 , 07:53 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Karkais View Post
Isn't "eternal army" mostly robotic anyway? (except for those knights)
Yup..probably why they are eternal . They get scrapped and a factory build more..and more....

and they are all controlled by an AI....and they never get tired or know fears.......

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nuclearmind
11.13.2015 , 11:27 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by SerraShar View Post
Yup..probably why they are eternal . They get scrapped and a factory build more..and more....

and they are all controlled by an AI....and they never get tired or know fears.......
I really want to know how they have such an advanced economy. These are far better than the Tradr Federation/CIS droids and are what? 3-4K years before? CIS made cheap droids, so these must be astronomically expensive.
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Lazproperty
11.13.2015 , 11:45 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Karkais View Post
Isn't "eternal army" mostly robotic anyway? (except for those knights)
The Eternal fleet is operated by sentient droids yes, but they probably didn't fight Jedi and Sith face to face like the Knights of Zakuul did anyway since they're, well, a fleet.

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nuclearmind
11.13.2015 , 11:49 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Lazproperty View Post
The Eternal fleet is operated by sentient droids yes, but they probably didn't fight Jedi and Sith face to face like the Knights of Zakuul did anyway since they're, well, a fleet.
Wait are we talking about the Eternal Army or Fleet? I was under the impression that the Army was the Skytroopers Bots and the Fleet was the Scorpio Look Alikes that predate Zakul. (personally... Kinda hoping they end up being from the Yuzhan Vong Galaxy a la the Two Robot Factions who fought over there).
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Lazproperty
11.13.2015 , 12:09 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by nuclearmind View Post
Wait are we talking about the Eternal Army or Fleet? I was under the impression that the Army was the Skytroopers Bots and the Fleet was the Scorpio Look Alikes that predate Zakul. (personally... Kinda hoping they end up being from the Yuzhan Vong Galaxy a la the Two Robot Factions who fought over there).
From what we saw this far, there's two military branch active in Zakuul, the automated Eternal Fleet, operated by sentient droids of GEMINI series (like SCORPIO), it's the naval forces, hence why they don't fight Jedi and Sith at close combat. The ground forces consist of force sensitive "Knights" which also serve as some kind of militia or royal guards for Zakuul when they aren't invading galaxies, we see them fighting alongside Arcann and Thexan in the trailer, those aren't droids, they're humans.